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Posted by John Nowak on 09-11-2000 04:40 PM:

Mac Support

Please note that the comments here are in no way intended to reflect on Macs in general.

I remember working for a company once which assured me they were "committed to supporting the Mac", which was good news but not really important to me because I was working on the Windows side of things. If I recall correctly, the Mac development department left when he got a better offer elsewhere; he was never replaced while I was there.

Before he left, the Mac Development department had been working about 50% on the Mac; the rest of the time he was on Windows projects.

It's sad, but if you're a small company, you can't afford to cut your sales by a factor of ten or twenty by focussing on a minority platform. This might, hopefully, change in the future, but not yet.


Posted by MPM on 09-11-2000 09:23 PM:

Thumbs up That means Macs are easier to program.

quote:
Originally posted by lennonhead
...I do see your point though, there is a higher ratio of programmers to users on the windows side than there is on the Mac side...


This means that Macs are actually easier to program than Windoze machines.

This is confirmed by my sister-in-law who works at HP in their printer division. The Mac programming department that she works in, writes all of HP's printer drivers for the Mac with just four programers. The Windoze programming department needs over 200 hundred programmers to do the same job for Windoze!

Also good Mac programmers are hard to find because they are so much in demand.


Posted by kingjames on 09-12-2000 03:56 AM:

dont try to stick the mac o.s. in the same sinking ship with linix and Be o.s.. mac users are a minority but we are a minority with our own HARDWARE and software that is geared mainly towards the multimedia side of computing. innogear did not go the extra mile they realized that mac users (wile fewer in number) are a valuble sorce of revinue when it comes to any products that have to do with multi media. i realize the problems that small companies might have when it comes to finding good mac programers and i am not trying to start a debate over witch is better. i am just tryin to say if you are trying to make money on a lemon aid stand dont count out the thirsty. we are out there and we are the ones producing the graphics,video,and digital audio we are the multi media users and i would bet my old mac usb mouse that there are more multi media professionals on macs than any other O.S. or machine.

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Posted by argent on 09-12-2000 04:59 AM:

Mac's strength isn't multimedia, it's desktop publishing.

If there was ever a multimedia computer, it was the Amiga. Look where it is now.

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Posted by Cerulean on 09-12-2000 06:16 AM:

Hmm.. I think I'll have to agree with argent-- the Macs are mainly desktop publishing -- I think multimedia aspects (web/music/video/audio/etc..) are strong on both Mac and PC with actually more innovation coming out on the PC side first .. For some reason this hasn't happened in desktop publishing (seems like almost all the pieces are there to make it happen.. oh well..)

Granted, I'd say that percentage wise, there might be more mac owners that are multimedia professionals compared regular mac owners to that on the PC side (pc multimedia professionals vs general PC population) -- however, I think PCs are continuing to play an ever increasing role in the development of multimedia productions..

In anycase, this conversation does seem to have turned into an us vs them scenario -- maybe someone should write to Handspring and request the makeup of the Visor population (product registration does ask for computer type, profession, etc..) -- It would be interesting to see who is buying the Visors (mac vs pc, profession, gender, locale, etc..)


Posted by kingjames on 09-12-2000 06:19 AM:

Cool

macs are the multi media computer and ther striength is still desktop publishing. i am pro video editor and the trend i am seeing in the digital video and audio production world is more people switching to macs to get the job done. apple (the inventor of firewire,quicktime,and final cut pro) has made great strides to cator to those in the video and audio business as they did to those in desktop publisting.i am a final cut pro user and a seven year photo shop user and i am a firm believer that macs can complete the task of video editing much more efectivly than the competition. if you dont believe that, you have never had countless people call you with a great video sitting on their desk top that they can't get their pc to run or rendor. i am not the only one that thinks this way, talk to the countless people editing video on there i mac dv, no thats not a multi media computer.mac users are a concetrated group of people that have been given great tools to produce a world of digital media and they are taking ad vantage of these tools. check out some of my work http://ifilm.com/ifilm/skeletons/film_detail/0,1263,124614,00.html

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Posted by Gameboy70 on 09-12-2000 07:39 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by kingjames dont try to stick the mac o.s. in the same sinking ship with linix and Be o.s.. mac users are a minority but we are a minority with our own HARDWARE and software that is geared mainly towards the multimedia side of computing.


Sinking ship? All three operating systems are growing in market share. And the only hardware that matters is the module. So again, the most expedient and democratic support solution is to write for Windows (the biggest customer base), open source the software, and let developers in each platform do their own porting.

By the way, did Apple actually invent FireWire, or were they just the first ones to implement it in a product?


Posted by Hoser_back_home on 09-12-2000 01:40 PM:

Re: Good too much $$

quote:
Originally posted by jakemonO
I like the premise of the soundsgood module. I think Innogear tried to tackle too much with its MiniJam, resluting in an expensive and delayed product. IMHO, springboards _should_ be simple and not have too much function crammed into them. Unfortunately, the soundsgood seems to be overpriced by $75-$100 relative to its function.


To get BACK ON TOPIC, i'd like to agree with JakemonO. I think this would be the perfect module for MP3 on a PDA if it was about $100 cheaper. It provides a good amount of music in a form factor that allows you to still use the Visor as a compact PDA. I'll wait though. If the price comes down on this module i'm the first in line. I just can't justify spending $20 more for an accessory than i did for the visor itself (and i DO consider this an accessory...not a necessity).

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Posted by kingjames on 09-12-2000 03:44 PM:

apple developed and invented fire wire.

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Posted by dinosoar on 09-12-2000 03:47 PM:

Absolutely, Apple invented FireWire.

Dino


Posted by argent on 09-12-2000 04:58 PM:

quote:
apple developed firewire


Sort of accidentally. They happened to hire the guy who was, as a sideline, working on a high speed serial bus as a new IEEE standard... so they eventually played a large part in its development. It wasn't a purely Apple thing, though, and other companies (such as IBM) have their own implementations.

It was like the Macintosh itself. Jef Raskin was working on that almost in the background, and against Jobs' objections (Jobs project was the Lisa), so when the Lisa cratered the Mac was there to take up the slack.

Sometimes I think that all big success stories start with accidents like these.

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Posted by Hoser_back_home on 09-12-2000 05:04 PM:

Something to tell my parents the next time they tell me i was an accident!

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