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- Visor Prism (http://discussion.visorcentral.com/vcforum/forumdisplay.php?forumid=19)
-- Visor Prism Hands-On Impressions (http://discussion.visorcentral.com/vcforum/showthread.php?threadid=8737)


Posted by dennya on 10-19-2000 05:23 AM:

Scotts,

Nope, the power supply plugs into the USB connector on the HotSync cradle. To charge on the road without bringing along your cradle, you need to buy Handspring's travel charger, a $34.95 accessory.

Hopefully someone will do a battery-based recharger for the Prism soon.

(The Sony CLIE actually has a power supply that can double as an on-the-road charger, but it's the only one.)

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Posted by ToolkiT on 10-19-2000 05:39 AM:

Re: AC adapter and Prism

quote:
Originally posted by Scotts
How does the AC adapter work with the Prism. Can you take the AC adapter with you when you travel (without lugging a laptop computer), and use the adapter to recharge the Prism?

You mentioned that the AC adapter plugs into the synch cradle...does that mean you CAN'T use it without a synch-able computer?



My guess would be if you take your cradle and adaptor (plus some plug adaptors for the country you are going to) you should be able to recharge...

Note, I do not have a prism so this is just an educated guess....

Hey, if anybody wil sent me one, I can try it out for you

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Posted by kalahari on 10-19-2000 05:43 AM:

I agree with ToolkiT. You should be able to just use a plug adaptor and it'll work. That's the way that IBM notebooks work.


Posted by Rob on 10-19-2000 05:47 AM:

Thumbs up Louder speaker!

Hey did anyone else notice? The Visor Prism's speaker sounds much louder than the Visor Deluxe (and my other Palm devices as well). Check it out for yourself -- place your Prism and Deluxe on a table next to each other and go to the General screen in the Prefs app. Switch both Alarm sounds to 'High'. Notice the difference?


Posted by genearch on 10-19-2000 07:35 AM:

USB travel Charger?

Love my Prism.. puts my IIIc to shame!

Ordered this;

USB Travel Charger (for Visor Prism)

* For use with Visor Prism, Visor Phone and Springboard modules that support in-handheld charging.
* Comes complete with International plug adapters.
* $34.99

What exactly is it? Travel charger is the description, but what is "USB Travel Charger"

humm....

BTW: It's backordered...


Posted by dennya on 10-19-2000 02:15 PM:

Genearch,

The "USB" just refers to where it connects on the Visor, to the "USB Hotsync connector."

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Posted by LanMan on 10-19-2000 02:55 PM:

Question

Okay, I haven't seen a Prism yet and I need to ask a question. The Palm IIIc had very obvious pixelation problems. Does the Prism avoid this problem or does it have the big gaps between pixels as well?

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Posted by Winchell on 10-19-2000 03:02 PM:

Cool

quote:
Originally posted by LanMan
Okay, I haven't seen a Prism yet and I need to ask a question. The Palm IIIc had very obvious pixelation problems. Does the Prism avoid this problem or does it have the big gaps between pixels as well?

I want to know that myself.
According to the review
http://www.pencomputing.com/palm/Pe...smplatinum.html
it does have the same pixelation problem, but 16 bit color helps reduce the eyestrain.

But I still want to see one in person. The Palm IIIc I saw in the store was murder on my eyes.

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Posted by yardie on 10-19-2000 03:04 PM:

Arrow Mesh

Prism has a slightly meshed background which takes a while to get used to. You have to mkae it adjust teh contrast to make it less bright for you to read comfortably.


Side NOte/Rant:
I wonder why the VisorCentral crew is so slow to do their review. Here we are at the biggest Visor community site on the planet, and we have yet to get an official review of the Prism. Everyone else seem to have one up alreadt (C/Net, Pen Computing etc).


Posted by narnia_77 on 10-19-2000 03:15 PM:

Cool Re: Mesh

quote:
Originally posted by yardie
Side NOte/Rant:
I wonder why the VisorCentral crew is so slow to do their review. Here we are at the biggest Visor community site on the planet, and we have yet to get an official review of the Prism. Everyone else seem to have one up alreadt (C/Net, Pen Computing etc).

Because they ARE the VisorCentral crew... The people on this board can be very demanding, so I'm sure they are really putting the Prism through the paces - to try to answer as many questions/concerns in the review as possible. As you stated, others have put out reviews, but you still want more details, don't you? I know I do.

They want to do it right.

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Posted by Leshrac on 10-19-2000 05:52 PM:

Re: C|Net Review

I'd hardly call C|Net's ignorant, meager couple of paragraphs a review. The folks here are likely putting it through a week or so of testing (as they usually seem to do), so as to write something that's actually worth reading.

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Posted by JHromadka on 10-19-2000 06:36 PM:

Arrow It's coming

quote:
Originally posted by yardie
Side NOte/Rant:
I wonder why the VisorCentral crew is so slow to do their review. Here we are at the biggest Visor community site on the planet, and we have yet to get an official review of the Prism. Everyone else seem to have one up alreadt (C/Net, Pen Computing etc).



I'm working on it! I want the review to be in-depth (unlike the press-release regurgitations so far IMHO). I didn't want to post a review that was more "impressions" than anything else. Reading your comments also gives me ideas on additional things to mention.

My real problem is that I can't find anything that lets me take good screenshots. If anyone has tried a capture program that works with the Visor please let me know. Screenshot hack captured colors but not black.

If you have to know something right now, I really like the Prism and am never going back. The screen is soooo much easier to read and the colors are vibrant.

Thanks for your patience. I'll try to have the review up by Friday evening.

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Posted by kalahari on 10-19-2000 07:47 PM:

Thumbs up

I tend to agree with James. I'm never going to back to the Deluxe from the Prism. The screen is so bright and easy to read.

This is what I e-mailed someone who asked me what I thought about the Prism:

"I've never seen a Palm IIIc but I have obviously heard a lot of complaints about its screen. I have also been working with PCs for years and have insisted on having the best resolution monitors at work and at home. For these reasons, I expected to be a little disappointed with the resolution but still felt that I needed to have color.

When I first powered the Prism on, I thought to myself "I expected more" as it was pretty dull. After trying some apps that supported color such as BugMe and Ardini's games, I cannot believe how good they look in color! The screen is so bright and I don't even have brightness turned up high. This makes it real easy to see at all times. Handspring should have an app that you can immediately that will show off its capabilities. I have a fairly long bus commute and I am used to battling to see the screen on my Deluxe but coming home today was like a dream -- the screen was great whether I was in shadow, in a tunnel, sun shining through the window, etc.

I am an Afterburner user (26MHz) but the speed of the Prism is impressive. I really really like the case too -- it feels very solid and even looks kinda metallic."


Posted by george_vc on 10-19-2000 09:32 PM:

I agree with the color thing. I LOVED my deluxe but after much consideration I knew I would not be satisfied without tryint the color and the rechargable. I LOVE IT ! So much more fun and easier to read with vibrant color. Plus, I use it lots, knowing all I have to do is drop in in the cradle for juicing it up. I think the prism is more fun to use, rather than just informational. The green screen is gone forever in my future.


Posted by ragamuffinn on 10-20-2000 06:20 AM:

Talking more gush...

I agree with you folks on the color. It's not an iPaq, but it's very, very nice. I'm in the process of reconfiguring my old VDx for my fiance, and I'm amazed that what looked so beautiful before (the VDx screen), is now simply hard to look at. And then I went back further and took a look at my old Palm Pilot Personal screen...I was floored...It's virtually non-readable (in contrast to the Prism screen)!!

I'm never going back. I'm going to keep this Visor for a long time.

One bug: I'm always hitting the left side of the Visor to turn it on and off...


Posted by Usonian on 10-20-2000 07:27 AM:

Re: It's coming

quote:
Originally posted by JHromadka

My real problem is that I can't find anything that lets me take good screenshots. If anyone has tried a capture program that works with the Visor please let me know. Screenshot hack captured colors but not black[/B]


You could use the Palm Emulator with a IIIc ROM, as long as none of the color apps are Prism-specific - but the color depth will only be 8-bits.

Hmm, I wonder if the process for downloading a Visor ROM via USB would work with the Prism; if you got hold of a Prism ROM you would theoretically be able to do 16-bit screenshots through the emulator.

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Posted by Bret Snyder on 10-21-2000 07:26 AM:

Re: my Prism thoughts

quote:
Originally posted by ch0ke
...i like it better than my IIIc already, except that it is missing the "stay on in cradle" feature in the prefs app.



My Prism will not turn off when it is in the cradle charging. Is this a feature or do I have a problem? When I press the power button, it turns off briefly and then comes back on.

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Posted by Hammerstroke on 10-21-2000 08:52 PM:

Angry

Got my Prism yesterday and installed a few apps (DateBk4, iSilo, AvantGo, a few others) then decided to try my Springboard modules. I have the 8Mb memory module and the Backup module.

As soon as I insert either one of them, I get a fatal exception error. Soft-Reset, and the error repeats as the OS is loading. I hard-reset and tried again, no dice.

I called tech support and spoke to a knowledgeable gent there who suggested basically the same things I tried, and asked a few questions about the applications I'd installed, which module I tried first, etc, and informed me that they've had a few other reports of the same problem (5-6 incidents).

They're trying to figure out what's causing it. Since both modules work on my VDX, they seem to think it's hardware-related (and I would tend to agree since even a hard-reset doesn't resolve it).

Handspring is overnighting me a replacement.

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Posted by tbonney on 10-22-2000 04:04 AM:

Lightbulb Dying for a Prism

I'll be buying a Prism after the first of the year. I was wondering if the screen on the Prism seems less scratch prone than the Visor Deluxe I have?

I use the black leather EB slipper case with belt clip with my Visor Dx. I hope EB or someone comes out with a similar case for the Prism before I buy one in January.

Timothy


Posted by themaven on 10-22-2000 05:19 AM:

Battery

Hey All,
I have a prism and love it so far. But it seems like the battery isnt lasting too long. Its dropping 1 or 2 percent after 3 minutes or so. Any comments or suggestions? Is it defective?

Thanks
Mike

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