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Posted by Arker on 07-01-2001 04:06 AM:

What do I hate? Well I'll tell ya...

I gotta say this drives me crazy. When people see my Visor laying on my desk or otherwise they think nothing of picking it up and fiddling through it or playing with it freely going in and out of apps as they please. The kicker is that these same people wouldn't even dream of picking up one of their other peer's paper daytimers and merrily flipping thru the pages to read it's content.

I'm no troll. I know they mean no harm but these folks treat my daytimer and private records as a freakin' GameBoy. Gouging and poking at it with any sharp object they can get their hands on.

I just thought I'd share that with you. I have to treat my Visor like it's a cookie jar and the people around me are children. What makes it worse is when you tell them to leave it alone please they act like 'What is this guy's problem?!? He doesn't want ppl to play with his GameBoy?!?!'. Very very frustrating because I always have to hide it.

Does anyone know of a good security app that will make particular apps of my choice disappear when I please? I wouldn't mind people on my Visor so much (assuming I supervise) if there were no sensitive info on there. Some apps allow private records, some do not. I'd like something that would make entire apps hidden or require a password to run.

Thanks

Ark.

Posted by ernieba1 on 07-01-2001 05:03 AM:

I ABSOLUTELY HATE THAT!

Other kids in my class take it, look in my datebook, and start asking, "Who's so-and-so?" What do they think, I'm having an affair? But that's only sometimes. Usually they're taking it off my desk to play games. "Bernie, let me just finish this game!" I'd like to sock them in the face, but they're bigger than me ! I learned to just stop leaving it around. I put in my pocket, in my hand's, or lock it (but even when I lock it, they'll take it away and try to figure out the code ). Keeping my eye's on it is no good, they'll just take it away in front of my eye's.

Locking it is useful, but not very convenient, especially if you're not fast at graffiti. I finally found Padlock Hack . It lets you use the buttons as a password. Not bad. Go to http://ourworld.compuserve.com/home...adlockhack.html

Just remember: they want to see it because they don't have one and you do. That makes you superior. Hahahaha!

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Posted by Arker on 07-01-2001 05:30 AM:

Yeah...lol... I love that "Who is this? Who is that?" when they are scrolling through my Address Book. Even though I'd like to strangle these people, it makes me laugh and feel better when I read it from another person's perspective as well. Nice to know I'm not alone.

Another problem with locking it is that yes they will try forever to crack the code right in front of me but also it apparently is rude. When I do it they act as though I'm stepping out of line or overreacting or something. Someone always says "Just let him/her use it. Quit bein' such a dick!". Extremely annoying and a situation that really is not solvable. The majority of people I know see my Visor as a toy probably because their kid has a GameBoy. Being around technicaly illiterate people constantly is getting frustrating for a number of reasons. Can't we just live in peace? ;P

I feel your pain... Maybe we should start a support group?

Cheers,

Arker.

Posted by robert sibell on 07-01-2001 06:20 AM:

Kidspilot

if you go to IS Complete.com and go to Kagi, there product seller, and buy kidspilot for $15 or $20 it could be uusefull. if you try a search on their main page it will say 'this product has been replaced by restrictor'. if you try to search for the demo of it on palmgear they will say 'this product has been removed by the developer'

kidspilot is a seperate launcher that lets you choose what applications you want to be shown in it when the launcher is selected. once accessed, you cant exit without the system pass word so you can let them fiddle with your pda knowing their is no way for them to access unwanted information.

email me for more information at [email protected]

i got this program after many people kept asking me if they could play games on it. so i bought it and now they cant access or delete any information i dont want them to know about. (not through hard buttons silk screen buttons or from inside a game) now i can let them play anything i selected for them to play.

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Posted by Matthew Nichols on 07-01-2001 07:58 AM:

You better not get a Stowaway.

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Posted by - Vittaly - on 07-01-2001 01:35 PM:

T r r u e . . t r r u e . . .

Try to use the MouseTrap hack. It basically allows you to lock someone out in a certain application(some game for example). So that they will be able to play but won't be able to access the rest of your device.

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Posted by ernieba1 on 07-01-2001 01:50 PM:

I have a stowaway . I can't stand that reaction from the other people! I've just stopped caring. Which DOES NOT make me very popular.

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Posted by dick-richardson on 07-01-2001 04:27 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Arker
Quit bein' such a dick!...

You called?

I use PowerHack. It's simple and effective, and the price is right. There is no way around it (that I've found) because as soon as the device is turned off, it's locked. I tried a hard reset and a restore from backup, but it immediately locks the visor after reset. You can't hotsync it because it's locked. A reset with extentions off (holding the up button) still requires the password right away. I had a problem with it and my prism (the screen would flash in time with the charging LED), but it works great with the solo, deluxe, plat, and edge.

http://www.palmation.com/software/check-in/index.html

I have a shortcut that expands to my password minus the last character. That way I can have an incredibly long password that's easy to enter, but isn't totally accessible by the shortcut.

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Posted by mensachicken on 07-01-2001 04:56 PM:

Re: What do I hate? Well I'll tell ya...

quote:
Originally posted by Arker
Does anyone know of a good security app that will make particular apps of my choice disappear when I please?

Yeah, what I would do if I was you is download the very free program called Launcer III. (http://www.benc.hr/lnchiii.htm)

It's a launcher that allows you to put your apps into tabs/folders. Once in the tabs, you can designate which tabs appear. A graffiti stroke turns the visibility on and off.

So, get the launcher, break your apps into tabs. Then, make an extra tab and name it "_" (blank space) or . and then make all the other ones invisible. when people turn it on, they'll just see a blank screen (except for date and battery level). it doesn't ask for a password so people don't try and fiddle with it. and you only have to do one graffiti character to get all your apps. and it's free.

Posted by PastaGrrrl on 07-01-2001 05:19 PM:

Ernieba...what kind of reactions are you getting to your Stowaway?

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Posted by dick-richardson on 07-01-2001 05:45 PM:

Launcher III is nice, but the hard buttons still work.

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Posted by Matthew Nichols on 07-01-2001 08:29 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by PastaGrrrl
Ernieba...what kind of reactions are you getting to your Stowaway?

If its anything like me, hes getting people who constantly take the keyboard and open and close it about a mllion times as if its an accordion.

You know what I hate the most? Is when people ask "How much did this cost?" and usually this is from people who are either really cheap, or don't have their priorities straight with money, and they're like "Woah! You must be rich!"

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Posted by JHromadka on 07-02-2001 01:37 AM:

You can also go into Prefs and assign the upstroke to be "Turn off & Lock". Then when someone picks up your Visor there is nothing for them to do.

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Posted by ernieba1 on 07-02-2001 02:23 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Matthew Nichols

If its anything like me, hes getting people who constantly take the keyboard and open and close it about a mllion times as if its an accordion.

You know what I hate the most? Is when people ask "How much did this cost?" and usually this is from people who are either really cheap, or don't have their priorities straight with money, and they're like "Woah! You must be rich!"

Bingo. Bingo, bingo, bingo. They really gotta make a taser module

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Posted by mr_yellow on 07-02-2001 09:29 AM:

I've found that all the locking programs become too cumbersome for daily use, especially ifyou're turning on and off your visor a lot.

EasyLock

EasyLock is more of a convience lock than a unbreakable lock. Basically requires one or two hardbuttons that need to be pressed after the power button to 'unlock' the visor. if mr/ms. nosey doesn't go through your "secret" sequence, then the visor locks. Really great, easy to manage and not a pain (not long passwords to write out everytime).

yellow

Posted by K. Cannon on 07-02-2001 03:26 PM:

I like EasyLock as well. I hope that if it gets lost and my message screen comes up (when they finder doesn't know which buttons to press and/or that other buttons need to be pressed), the finder will be lured into calling me because "REWARD OFFERED"

Posted by recordond on 07-02-2001 08:27 PM:

Now we need someone to make a thumb print scanner module.

--David

Posted by gorrak on 07-02-2001 08:34 PM:

Hehe... I just grin and bear it, I'm the gentle giant of the classroom.

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Posted by flips13 on 07-02-2001 08:46 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by recordond
Now we need someone to make a thumb print scanner module.

http://www.palmgear.com/software/sh...amp;prodID=2474

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Posted by Toby on 07-02-2001 08:50 PM:

Re: What do I hate? Well I'll tell ya...

Originally posted by Arker:
I gotta say this drives me crazy. When people see my Visor laying on my desk or otherwise they think nothing of picking it up and fiddling through it or playing with it freely going in and out of apps as they please. The kicker is that these same people wouldn't even dream of picking up one of their other peer's paper daytimers and merrily flipping thru the pages to read it's content.

The BVisorUserFH method: The next time someone does that, you grab your visor back and slap them on the wrist while saying 'Bah. Do not meddle in the affairs of Visor users for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!*' Not only should that keep them from playing with your visor again, they'll probably avoid you totally. As an added bonus, they may fear that you're insane and might kill them at any moment which can have all sorts of other perks.

But seriously...I wouldn't leave my visor there. Mine stays in my front pants pocket at all times. If anyone grabs for it there, a slap on the wrist would be a kind way of dealing with it (only the wife's allowed to do that).

* or there is the alternate more faithful rendition: 'Do not meddle in the affairs of Visor users for they are subtle and quick to anger'

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