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Posted by nkawtg on 01-06-2002 12:27 AM:

Prism and Brando Screen Protector

I'm sure you all know the Prism is nearly impossible to see in sunlight. Well, I just got my Brando screen protector and the glare reduction was enough to vastly improve visablity in direct sunlight. Just wanted to pass the word.

Posted by coppertop on 01-06-2002 01:33 AM:

Where did you get your Brando Screen Protector?

Posted by A. Yee on 01-06-2002 01:46 AM:

You can get them at http://shop.brando.com.hk/

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Where did you get your Brando Screen Protector?

Posted by adfrost on 01-06-2002 07:11 AM:

Opinion

Are you happy with the Brando? They sound great, but I'm not sure because I've never seen one. How does it effect the screen (moire, blurryness, texture, etc.)?

I'm considering getting one for my Prism.

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Posted by Madkins007 on 01-06-2002 04:23 PM:

I had a Brando on my Deluxe for several months, and was incredibly happy with it. After a while, the adhesive became less aggressive, and some flaws built up on the adhesive side, but it was still far better than anything else I had used.

When I got my new Prism a few weeks ago, I transfered the Brando over to it, flaws and all- and it works great! There is no real loss of clarity or color- even my very slightly foggy used Brando does not interfere with the Prism's appearance.

Posted by nkawtg on 01-06-2002 08:51 PM:

I love it. I cann't even tell its on the screen. The biggest thing is less glare which helps when using out doors. Just used it today and I think this is the first time I could see my Prism screen on a sunny day. Its not the brightest thing but at least now its usable. In case someone asks the next logical question, it took eight days to get it from Hong Kong, I live in the central US.

Posted by scromer on 01-07-2002 05:07 AM:

Compare?

How would you compare the Brando to other comercially available screen protectors like the ones made by Fellows?

Posted by Madkins007 on 01-07-2002 03:41 PM:

I have used:
Fellowes WriteRights
PDAScreenProtectors.com
Radio Shack Screen Protectors
Homemade vinyl
Homemade acetate, mylar, etc.

I vastly prefer the Brando screen protecotrs to all of them.

If you plotted screen protectors on a scale, Fellowes would be on one end- rather thick, frosted/textured, self-adhesive, glare-reducing and clarity reducing, and pretty tough/scratch resistant. PDAScreenProtectors (a thin Mylar shield that slips in place) would be on the other end- absolutely transparent, pretty easy to scratch, very thin, etc.

Brandos would come in near the middle- the best of both worlds! They are tough, almost transparent (very, very lightly frosted), very resistant to scratching, some glare reduction with no real loss of clarity, etc.

I think the screen under the WriteRights looks funny, and it does not under the Brando. I KNOW that for me, the WriteRight reduced clarity to the point that the small text was hard to read (my vision is such that I wear glasses for distance, and am just starting to have to lift my glasses for small things- so you know where I am coming from!), the Brando does not do this. The pen feel of the Brando is very smooth and natural- but this is a very subjective point.

Installation is similar for both, but I think the Brando is sized a bit better and is a little easier to make bubble-free (at least the first time.)

The Brando is also re-useable. Washing it and trying to re-use it is where some people have problems- it is easy to introduce dust and stuff during this process. If you cannot wash and re-use it well, then the $12 cost quickly becomes a liability.

I have 2. I have damaged the adhesive on one a bit (tried to scrape some debris off with the tip of an Exacto knife), and I let the other dry off on a paper towel, adhesive side down. Now, I can't get all of the 'lint' off.

Still, even with these flaws, the Brandos look and feel better than any other protector I have tried.

Posted by vince123123 on 01-14-2002 03:15 AM:

Well all you have to do after patting it down so its almost dry is to use some big transparent adhesive tape and stick it ot the adhesive side of the brando and lift it off.

couple of this will render ur brando really nice and clean. Try it
it works for me

Posted by Xzaver on 01-15-2002 05:30 PM:

What do you guys think of The Screen Protectors from http://www.TTools.com ( SoloVision )

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Posted by Di on 01-16-2002 12:17 PM:

Expensive..............

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Posted by Madkins007 on 01-16-2002 04:58 PM:

Cool idea, but I bet they would drive you crazy. It has to be grooved/ridged/textured to accomplish what it is trying to do, and that was one of the big issues with the WriteRights- and I bet the images shows up when you look at it under certain conditions, even if you are right in front of it.

Posted by sledgehammer on 01-22-2002 02:53 AM:

Uh, am I missing something?

The writerights for my VDLX definately had more of a texture and almost a tint to them. But the ones for my Prism are, for all practical purposes, smooth and clear. It is almost like not having one there.

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Posted by LeaDxPainT on 01-22-2002 03:05 AM:

It's used to protect the screen itself. I pursonaly would rather dish out 12 or so dollars for a screen protector that'll save my 100 dollar screen from scratching. And it's a bonus that the protector is not even noticable

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Posted by crackheadmike on 01-22-2002 04:52 AM:

anyone buy screen protectors from e bay?
pda screen protecters at e bay

Di was right they are expensive, esp. after you factor in shipping. I know of some one who uses scotch tape in the graffiti area. I can't see paying over $20 for what is a few big pieces of scotch tape

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Posted by Madkins007 on 01-22-2002 03:09 PM:

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Originally posted by crackheadmike
anyone buy screen protectors from e bay?
pda screen protecters at e bay

Di was right they are expensive, esp. after you factor in shipping. I know of some one who uses scotch tape in the graffiti area. I can't see paying over $20 for what is a few big pieces of scotch tape

PDAScreenProtectors.com original protectors are slightly oversized pieces of Mylar that slip between the screen and case to stay in place. They are thin, light, perfectly clear and quite nice- except that they scratch very easily and are sometimes difficult to install. The new Generation II are supposed ot be more scratch resistant.

Some people DO use tape over the Grafitti area- I have done it myself. It works quite nicely, but leaves the rest of your screen exposed to danger. It only takes a fraction of a second for you to use a stylus with a bit of grit, or a friend to press too hard, or something to fall against your screen to scratch it. Accidents DO happen. I far prefer to cover the entire screen.

$20 for some oversized tape? If it were just tape, you could use any of the packing or clear plastic tapes and do the job. Go ahead and try it, I'll wait.

(tapping toes, wasting time...)

Back so soon? You got a LOT of air bubbles, didn't you? You also found that plastic tape is thick, but soft and felt funny to write on, and packing tape was not too bad- just too thin and hard to get off. Both had a little stronger adhesive than you needed and both showed scratches pretty easily.

There are a lot of home-made versions of protectors available- and I have tried most of them- but the bottom line is that it does not make a lot of sense to spend $100-500 for a good PDA you can really USE, then wimp out on getting good protection for its most vulnerable part.

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Posted by aserenyi on 03-12-2002 07:11 PM:

I have the NuShield and I love it

I use NuShield screen protectors and it is the most convenient and easy to use film ever. It does not have a sticky surface, it slips between the case and the screen.
It has an optical coating to eliminate blury newton rings and scratches.
I've had mine in since November and it still works great. I took it out and cleaned it and put it back without any hassle.

And the price is right too. I paid $14.99 for three films and I expect they will last about two years.

Go to nushield.com to check it out.

Posted by Madkins007 on 03-13-2002 04:39 PM:

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Originally posted by crackheadmike
Di was right they are expensive, esp. after you factor in shipping. I know of some one who uses scotch tape in the graffiti area. I can't see paying over $20 for what is a few big pieces of scotch tape

I did the tape bit and will never do it again or recommend it to anyone. I was as careful as I could be with my Deluxe and taped the grafitti area, only to discover several noticable scratches on the screen one day. I have no idea where they came from.

There are a thousand ways to scratch a screen, and very few ways to satisfactorily repair them. Most of the extended warranties only go so far (Handsprings only covers 1 screen, etc.), do-it-yourself screen replacement still costs $50-70, 'fix it yourself' options (glue patches, abrasive cleaners, etc.) are iffy at best...

As far as full screen options go, there are the good, the bad, and the ugly.

UGLY choices include most home-made protectors. They tend to be too thick, to easily scratched, bubbly, wrinkled, etc. I have tried clear vinyl, mylar, Lexan, polypropolene, and several types of tapes. I gave up.

BAD choices take too much away, or are a poor value. Many textured protectors, in their attempts to reduce glare, mess up the clarity or visibility too much. Some are far too easily scratched (such as the Radio Shack protectors)- it is a really poor value to have to toss out a protector after only a few days.

GOOD protectors are easy to install (without bubbles or flaws), nearly crystal clear, have good 'writing texture', are scratch resistant, and provide peace of mind.

I find that the PDAScreenProtector Generation 2 and the Brando Screen Protectors do just that. Others may also, but I have tried these under a variety of conditions.

As far as value- $20 for a protector that does an excellent job for several months in a row seems to me to be money well spent- heck, we spend that much on software that we only play for a few weeks, then abandon (look at the thread about Monopoly!)

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