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Posted by PeloGrande on 02-22-2001 12:01 AM:

Question

Ok, just a simple question about the thinmodem+. It's got 8 megs on there, and that sounds great to me, but I was wondering about the functionality of that memory. Does it work about the same way as the plain vanilla 8 meg module, or is it closer to the CF modules, where everything has to be shuffled back and forth?


Posted by Card Access on 02-22-2001 12:07 AM:

The Card Access Thinmodem Plus's 8MB (approx. 7.5MB usable) of flash memory is used and accessed exactly the same way as the popular 8MB Flash Module from Handspring.

We have included FileMover, adapted from Handspring's FileMover application, which works in a similar fashion.

Unfortunately, we can't say that all apps will run right off of the module due to the fact that some apps don't handle running from a non-editable memory gracefully. There are several good posts on this discussion board about such applications.

Also, you may want to give a look at an additional application we are making available off the website which allows files to be copied directly into the Thinmodem Flash Memory.

-Card Access


Posted by critic on 02-22-2001 03:44 AM:

Another Question

Well hey, since we have someone from Card Access here answering questions...

I noticed that the slot for the cable dongle is on the far edge of the module. Does this mean that it's possible to use the ThinModem+ while keeping the Visor in, say, a Handspring case (which uses the "snap on" technique to hold the Visor in place) or with the hard cover snapped on the back of the Visor?


Posted by narnia_77 on 02-22-2001 07:10 AM:

Question

quote:
Originally posted by Card Access
Also, you may want to give a look at an additional application we are making available off the website which allows files to be copied directly into the Thinmodem Flash Memory.

Can the USBFileMover program be used to write directly to Handsprings 8mb Flash module, or is this something special for the TM/TM+? Thanks.

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Posted by Vertigo on 02-22-2001 10:36 AM:

Original Thinmodem

So when are you guys going to update the original Thinmodem to support 56k connections? I surely thought you would do this before releasing another springboard..


Posted by Card Access on 02-22-2001 05:53 PM:

We appreciate your patience with the upgrade for Thinmodem. Since we have decided to make essentially the same software available for both products (Thinmodem/Thinmodem+), what we call 'version 2.0', the upgrade is naturally following on the heels of the Thinmodem+ release. This is due to the fact that the 2.0 'upgrade' has an added level of complexity versus having 2.0 programmed at the factory. We are working to make the upgrade process as smooth as possible.

Please bear with us.

Thanks,

Card Access


Posted by mgflorez on 02-22-2001 08:21 PM:

Thumbs up

Also, you may want to give a look at an additional application we are making available off the website which allows files to be copied directly into the Thinmodem Flash Memory.

-Card Access

1. Is this utility limited to use with ThinModem and ThinModem+? Can I use the utility to load my maps into my MatchBookDrive Compact Flash?

2. Is this part of the Audible Springboard Module?

3. Where is it on the Card Access site?

From,
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Posted by Clovis on 02-22-2001 08:55 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by narnia_77

Can the USBFileMover program be used to write directly to Handsprings 8mb Flash module, or is this something special for the TM/TM+? Thanks.



No, I have been unable to write directly to the Handspring 8MB Flash module. You can, however, download directly from the Handspring 8MB Flash module to your PC.

The write only seems to work from the PC to the Thinmodem Plus flash memory.

As noted from my first impression post:

http://discussion.visorcentral.com/...;threadid=12127

Backup the contents of the Thinmodem Plus flash to your PC before attempting to write to it. I had a bad incident where I had a Fatal Error during the write process and during recovery the Thinmodem Plus said that the memory is corrupted and unusable and that a format of the memory was necessary. Stupid me, I acknowledged the message and reformated to contents of my brand new Thinmodem Plus. This means I wipe out Browse It and One Touch Mail.

I also discovered that if the USB FileMover application is on your PDA while you try to do an AvantGo modem sync, it will result in a Fatal Error. I tested this against my Handspring 33.6 modem, to make sure it wasn't the Thinmodem Plus, and the result was the same... Fatal Error. When I removed the USB FileMover from my PDA, I got NO Fatal Errors using both the Thinmodem Plus and my Handspring 33.6.


Posted by Card Access on 02-22-2001 09:28 PM:

All,

We have identified and fixed the Fatal Error issue when trying to use AvantGo's MobileLink software with the USBFileMover (version 1.0) application installed on your handheld.

A new version is available from our website. You'll want to download the .zip file again and re-install the .prc file onto your handheld (the desktop portion hasn't changed).

To verify you are running the ne version on your handheld, you can go to Options->About and look at the version, which will now read 'Version 1.1'

-Card Access


Posted by septimus on 02-22-2001 09:46 PM:

I was on the fence on this product, but after seeing this level of service, I'm in! WTG Cardaccess!


Posted by juradoc001 on 02-23-2001 10:01 AM:

Lightbulb Way to go CardAccess!!!

I love my Thinmodem, it never leaves my Visor. One request though, how about adding Fax support? :-) Thanks!

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Posted by mgflorez on 02-23-2001 08:58 PM:

Cannot read or write to MatchBookDrive CF Adapter with USB Mover. Pity.


Posted by jeffbeerman2 on 02-24-2001 04:26 AM:

Wink Hey, card access, want some of my $$$

If you CAN do some simple modifications to the USB file mover software to make it work with the HS 8mb flash module, I for one would gladly pay 5 or 10 bucks for such software. I envision myself using an extra cradle and my visor's 3mb of free space to bring files to and from work ;O)

Or you could just wait till I have the money burning a hole in my pocket to buy your modem/memory combo. It'll be warm soon and I'll be short the extra jacket-pocket-space for my clunky oversized battery-hog HS modem.


Posted by larryboyjohn on 02-24-2001 05:37 PM:

Question Digital Lines?

So, can I use a thinmodem+ with a digital line? Is there an adapter or something that will allow me to do this? Will the module at least warn me if I plug it into a digital line? If I can't use this with a digital line I won't buy one.
Card Access! I love your idea, but until this is fixed you ain't gett'n my money!


Posted by Tan Kit Hoong on 02-25-2001 05:23 PM:

Question Thinmodem+ and OmniRemote

I noticed that with the Thinmodem in my Visor Prism, I cannot run OmniRemote and instead get a message saying that "Another program is blocking the serial port."

I take it that the Thinmodem uses one of the two COM ports available for the Visor and thus Omniremote won't work when I have the Thinmodem in.

This could be an issue to consider when using the Thinmodem+ as with that amount of memory, I am more likely to leave the module in permanently.

Is there any way at all to get around this?

I'm a very satisfied owner of the original Thinmodem and I was just wondering, Card Access, when the V90 update will be available for download?

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Posted by DBrown on 02-26-2001 12:03 AM:

Re: Thinmodem+ and OmniRemote

quote:
Originally posted by Tan Kit Hoong
I noticed that with the Thinmodem in my Visor Prism, I cannot run OmniRemote and instead get a message saying that "Another program is blocking the serial port."
...
Is there any way at all to get around this?

Since there is an Omniremote springboard available, which the Omniremote software would expect, it seems reasonable to me that Omniremote software doesn't want to work when another module is in the springboard slot. The Visor has an internal IR emitter, though. See if there is any menu preferences option in Omniremote to let you select the local IR port over the springboard one. I don't own omniremote. Just thought this might help.

Dave

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Posted by Tan Kit Hoong on 02-26-2001 02:54 AM:

I was talking about the Omniremote software, not the Springboard.

Omniremote exists as a software only download or as a Springboard. I have the software.

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Posted by Matthew Nichols on 02-26-2001 05:01 AM:

I believe its because when a modem is inserted serial traffic is redirected to the Springboard slot, since thats where Palms were setup to have their modem. Since you can only have serial or IR, not both, having the modem inserted is using IR.

Thats the best explanation I can think of, but then how does to Stowaway and other keyboards work at the same time? Theres a similar disscussion going on about if BlueTooth would have this limit or not in the Wireless section...

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Posted by Tan Kit Hoong on 02-26-2001 06:42 AM:

Well, actually, like a PC, I think it all boils down to the number of available COM (communications) ports on the Visor.

While PCs typically have 4 COM ports, the Visor has only 2.

Therefore, the infrared port takes up one COM port while the USB/serial connection takes up the other COM port.

This means that you can use the modem and the keyboard with no problems, because the Modem will take over the COM for the infrared while the keyboard uses the other.

The problem is that Omniremote tries to access the same COM port that the modem uses, which gives rise to the conflict.

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