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Originally posted by John Nowak

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Originally posted by nwhitfield

The reason is that we're all far too stylish over here to do something as impossibly vulgar as drink from a plastic cup while we're driving. :-)

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And besides, with those tiny, tiny little countries they have in Europe, there's isn't enough time to get thirsty when driving. [/B]

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The reason is that we're all far too stylish over here to do something as impossibly vulgar as drink from a plastic cup while we're driving. :-)

Nigel.[/B]

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Originally posted by Charo
Texan's have a tradition of drinking out of the smallest size brown paper sack, generally on the way home from work. Now of course inside the sack is a aluminum can and the can doesn't contain a coke.

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James Hromadka
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Maybe somebody has the answer to this, but what is the point of using your Visor while driving. I personally can't do that much while only using one hand on my Visor, and it anyone out there wants to admit to driving no handed, feel free, but I think that you are going to be labled insane.
Maybe some people found a use for the finger stylus .
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I tried this once, it's not worth it

I tried to use my Visor once while driving...for the life of me, I can't remember what I was trying to do, though. Whatever it was, I quickly realized that not only would I need to be looking at my Visor more than at the road, but that both my hands would need to be off the steering wheel. I turned off the Visor and waited until I could pull over.

Re: It's the driving, dang it!

Earlier, I claimed that poor driving and inattention is the problem, and that PDAs and cellphones are symptoms of it, not the root causes of it.

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What you call "symptoms" contribute to the "problems." Judgements about poor driving and inattention are too vaugue to be useful: "Yes officer, your right. That premature left turn of mine was pretty lame!"

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Those criteria can only be objectively defined when it's too late. Handsets are no different than alcohol: they compromise a driver's attention and reflexes. Even the best drivers' skills are compromised when physically distracted.

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Almost every cell phone user with a handset that I've ever noticed uses his or her hand to hold the phone. The ones that nestle phones with their shoulder blades are still interfering with stop/swerve reflexes. The sobriety of the driver is completely irrelevant. [/B]

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I don't think that the goverment would be able to ba cell phones from cars for the simple reason of them being too close to Radio's. All goverment vehicles have radio's, and if some people were allowed to use communication devices while others were not, boy, imagine the reaction.
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Originally posted by chaos
I disagree on both counts. Folks who are distracted by cellphones and PDAs will be reading billboards, arguing with passengers, arguing with the radio, reading a book, or videotaping their child in the passenger seat (I've seen it) if we take their cellphones and PDAs away. The problem is inattention and poor driving. If people are driving poorly and not paying attention, I'd like the police to stop them. If in contrast they're driving well, I don't see why it has to be a police issue.

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And I disagree with this. My wife and I have had plenty of "discussions" in the car and I read interesting billboards (maybe one day there'll be a VC one ) but I hate using a cell phone, much less my Visor, in the car.

PDA usage is different from cell usage because you have to almost take both hands off the wheel to use them and must look away from the road to see the screen. [/B]

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I think that when an accident occurs and there was a cell phone in the guilty party's vehicle, a subpoena should be issued to determine if they were on the phone at the time of the accident. If so, a stiff fine is issued.

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Originally posted by chaos
If somebody is rear-ended while stopped in traffic, would you apply this law to them? Would they deserve a stiff fine for talking on a cellphone during this accident? Of course not. With regard to the at-fault driver, does it matter why he or she isn't paying attention? Why should talking on a cellphone be worse than popping a zit, if it causes an accident?

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Note the guilty party reference. They are the ones that would receive the fine. How many accidents occurred last year from acne? How many happened from cell phones? [/B][/QUOTE]

Excuse me, I originally read that to mean "guilty of cellphone usage."

But that doesn't answer the question: why does it matter why the offending driver wasn't paying attention? In my book, it doesn't matter if the at-fault driver is distracted by their kids, the radio, the telephone, meditation or nothing at all. What matters is who caused the accident.

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Michael A. Atkinson
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As a dedicated motorcyclist, I have to say, you cage driving freaks worry me enough already without another gadget to distract you from the road.

Cell phones are bad enough, but trying to use a PDA and drive at the same time just seems silly. Are you or do you really need to be that "connected"? C'mon- people, common sense hasn't completely disappeared has it?

If you happen to wander that Ford Excursion into my lane while you're on your cell phone or PDA, you better hope it kills me. If it doesn't- I'm gonna follow you home and shove it up your- well, you understand, right?

Only half kidding,

Scott

"Think twice, save a life, motorcyclists are everywhere."