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Posted by alag8r on 06-07-2001 03:14 PM:

When I synch, everything transfers correctly, but I get the following error message at the end of my log:

System synchronization failed
Protocol Error: Handheld file not found. (4003)
HotSync operation complete 06/06/01 09:41:24 PM

Should I be concerned? What handheld file is it not finding?

Thanks - rick


Posted by Azdeadwood on 06-07-2001 03:56 PM:

Looks like you are synching using Palm Desktop verion 4.01.
You get the message because the System files on a Handspring are burned onto the ROM chip. The System files on a Palm are in RAM so the software expects them to be synched.

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Posted by alag8r on 06-07-2001 04:12 PM:

Thanks Richard. That makes sense and it sounds like it might be something not to worry about. However, I don't really use the palm desktop at all and the one I have installed is version 3.1. The Hotsync Manager is version 3.1.0Hb.

rick


Posted by bradhaak on 06-07-2001 04:21 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Azdeadwood
Looks like you are synching using Palm Desktop verion 4.01.
You get the message because the System files on a Handspring are burned onto the ROM chip. The System files on a Palm are in RAM so the software expects them to be synched.



I don't think so.

I synch a Visor Deluxe, Edge, Plat, and Prism as well as various Palm devices with 4.01 on two computers. Everything works great. Also the system files on Palm devices are on either Flash or masked ROM (like HandSpring). Neither one is synchable.

You can always try the brute force method. Delete the user from the Palm Desktop on your PC and then HotSynch to recreate the user. This shouldn't screw anything up. I have done this a number of times.


Posted by sdoersam on 06-07-2001 04:26 PM:

This error comes from syncing with a Springboard installed in the Visor. It somehow confuses the sync software (probably because the Springboard bus connects directly to the Dragonball processor bus). I get this error everytime I sync with a module installed. take out the module, and it syncs fine.

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Posted by alag8r on 06-07-2001 05:41 PM:

Thats it. I removed my Thinmodem plus and synched. No error. I'm not going to worry about the error any more. Thanks to everyone who responded. rick


Posted by potter on 06-08-2001 08:24 PM:

Could anyone who has experienced this problem please report it to Handspring via either:

I do not expect them to give anyone a solution to this problem, for when I reported it the answer I got back was as follows:
quote:
Thank you for contacting Handspring Technical Support.

We do not recommend that you hotsync your Visor with the Flash Module installed. Even though the computer doesn't exchange data withe module. It can be "seen" during the hotsync process and sometimes cause hotsync errors such as the one you mentioned in your e-mail to occur. Remove the module from the Visor before you hotsync.
I am living with this answer for now but I do not like it. I do not like it because:
  1. If I remove the module before Hotsync'ing then any application that has an associated conduit can not be put on the module. Otherwise the conduit will not run when the module is removed.
  2. Leaving the module in causing this error during the execution of the system conduit (a.k.a the backup conduit). I am not convinced, one way or the other, when this error occurs, the backup conduit did not completely back up my data (as well as it is designed to).
Currently I just Hotsync with the module in place most of the time, and occasionally without the module.

Any way, the more who report people to report this problem, the more likely Handspring well eventually fix it.

Some additional information: After some further experimentation after I got that reply from Handspring I found that that Palm Desktop 3.01 as distributed from Handspring's Website does not have this problem (Hot Sync Manager 3.0.2Hb). Palm Desktop 3.1 as distributed from Handspring's Website does (Hot Sync Manager 3.1.0H). However the backup conduit in Hot Sync Manager 3.0.2 does a poor job of managing the backup directory.


Posted by alanf on 06-11-2001 07:26 PM:

Should have read this first!

Well, it pays to read the boards. I noticed exactly this error earlier today, and looking through my log found that I've had it as far as the log goes back - which is AFTER I got my 8mb flash module. Called HS tech support before looking here, and they told me exactly the same - remove the module and it will sync. True, but what's realy going on?

Potter - you were concerned that a conduit wouldn't function properly if its associated application was on the module. Maybe I'm missing something about flash modules - I thought that data on the module was not accessed during the hotsync process anyway (because - I think - it needs to be moved into RAM before being edited). Do I have this wrong?


Posted by Pathdoc on 07-19-2001 09:15 PM:

If you use Backup Buddy, you will not get this error when hotsyncing with a module in place. I also noticed this error when hotsyncing with my ThinModem Plus in place and would remove it whenever I hotsynced. Someone here on the message boards suggested using Backup Buddy and that took care of the problem. (Of course, you also get the benefit of backing up the data on your module.)

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Posted by VTL on 07-19-2001 11:12 PM:

I've had this error message too, forever. I never really worried about it, as it otherwise works fine - all my data gets exchanged. However, it's nice to hear an explanation.


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