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Posted by steelkilt on 03-02-2001 06:58 PM:

Question

For the life of me, I can't decide. I want the Plat's OS 3.5 and speed, but the display issues are keeping me on the fence. The VDX seems rock-solid in every area by comparison.

My main apps are DateBk4 and Noah dictionary, and I'll likely be hooking the visor to my StarTac 7867 later on down the line. I'm not big on image viewing.

Can anyone help to sway me? What's best about the Plat? What's best about he VDX? Any obvious advantages on either side?

Thanks,

/Steelkilt


Posted by jazzlover on 03-02-2001 08:32 PM:

Lightbulb Do A Search Of The Archives?

There's a review of the VPL in the Around The Web section of VC's homepage that might help you. There was a review of it from another PDA site a week or two ago, maybe someone else here remembers where it was posted?
I think a search of the discussion archives here might also turn up good info, try "Deluxe vs Platinum".
I would think the upgrade to OS 3.5 alone gives the VPL the edge. Wireless seems a bit more complicated with VDx.
Enjoy choosing!


Posted by akur on 03-02-2001 10:18 PM:

Go with platinum!
you'll got faster processor and Palm OS 3.5
Good Luck!

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Posted by Thunderbird291 on 03-02-2001 10:30 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by steelkilt
For the life of me, I can't decide. I want the Plat's OS 3.5 and speed, but the display issues are keeping me on the fence. The VDX seems rock-solid in every area by comparison.

My main apps are DateBk4 and Noah dictionary, and I'll likely be hooking the visor to my StarTac 7867 later on down the line. I'm not big on image viewing.

Can anyone help to sway me? What's best about the Plat? What's best about he VDX? Any obvious advantages on either side?

Thanks,

/Steelkilt



Well, I have a Plat, and have no problems with it. OS 3.5 is good, and with 4.0 coming out, you might want to go with 3.5 since it'll be 2nd newest, at least. I haven't had display problems. People say they only really affect images, and since that doesn't matter to you, go plat. One more thing, if you plan on wireless connections at all, VDX must be returned to HS and get updated with an RF upgrade. That isn't needed for Plat.


Posted by PlatLaw on 03-05-2001 07:24 PM:

Spend a little more and go with the Plat....I recently upgraded from the VDX and one of the key factors was the wireless connectivity. If you are doing anything wireless, I think the Plat is the best choice....


Posted by Burns on 03-08-2001 07:23 PM:

ok, maybe I haven't read enough but what display issues are you talking about?

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Posted by handspringer on 03-08-2001 08:45 PM:

Go to the EDGE......take the plunge......be the first to own it........tell us all about it

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Posted by Rob on 03-08-2001 08:54 PM:

Wait a month, then you can compare the Palm m50x and Visor Edge (and maybe a new PPC, who knows?)


Posted by dalamar70 on 03-22-2001 01:48 PM:

Price difference

If there was only a $50 difference between the VPL/Vdx I'd probably go for the former. But with the $50 Vdx rebate, that makes the difference $100. If you're only using your PDA casually, it doesn't seem worth it anymore. I wish HS had the rebate for the entire product line!


Posted by LanMan on 03-22-2001 04:10 PM:

Wrong the VDX is $150 dollars cheaper than the VPL when you purchase your VDX at Target. See this thread:

http://discussion.visorcentral.com/...?threadid=12959

Plus, Target give you a 90 day return policy.

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Posted by dalamar70 on 03-22-2001 07:25 PM:

Yeah, you can always get stuff cheaper when retail stores have sales. Sites like dealnews.com and dealnn.com often list specials or coupons. (VC should do this too. )

Remember that you'll have to pay tax at a local store like Target (whereas you may or may not have to pay tax and/or shipping for mail order). Tax can sure add up for a Prism in California.


Posted by waynorth on 03-22-2001 09:58 PM:

Go with the Plat. You will be so much happier with the speed as new games and more intensive software comes out. Also, I ended up getting rid of DB4 on the VDX because it took too long to refresh... but that was just my experience.

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Posted by LanMan on 03-22-2001 10:31 PM:

waynorth, do you REALLY feel that the VPL is worth "twice-the-price" of a VDX? Does anyone else think that the VPL is that much of an improvement over the VDX?

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Posted by Vertigo on 03-23-2001 09:21 PM:

For twice the price, you would have to be crazy to go with a Platinum now. Not worth it at all.


Posted by steelkilt on 03-23-2001 09:30 PM:

I ended up buying a Graphite VDX and am very happy. Personally, I think the VDX is the only buy right now. VPL is a bit too expensive for Palm OS 3.52 and I can do everything I need to do (including PQAs!) on Palm OS 3.1 and I get bettery battery life.

If someone told you you could have a 24MB PDA with 4 weeks between charges, wireless CDMA Internet, no burly attachment modules, for $374, would you go for it? If yes, then here's your baby:

VDX: $199 after rebate
Hagiwara 16MB flash module: $139
VDX-to-Motorola cable: $36

total: $374.

Makes the $400 Edge and $400+ m50x Palms look a bit silly, no? Also, remember, you get 24MB and wireless internet AT THE SAME TIME with this rig. Spend $500 for VDX and soon-to-be-released Airprime CDMA module and your springboard slot is gone.

/Steelkilt


Posted by mcristia on 04-08-2001 04:59 PM:

Question

quote:
Originally posted by steelkilt If someone told you you could have a 24MB PDA with 4 weeks between charges, wireless CDMA Internet, no burly attachment modules, for $374, would you go for it? If yes, then here's your baby:

VDX: $199 after rebate
Hagiwara 16MB flash module: $139
VDX-to-Motorola cable: $36

total: $374.

Also, remember, you get 24MB and wireless internet AT THE SAME TIME with this rig. Spend $500 for VDX and soon-to-be-released Airprime CDMA module and your springboard slot is gone.



Steelkit,

What is this VDX-to-Motorola cable, and which Motorola/Wireless service(s) will work?
Maybe some URLs?
Is there extra monthly service charge of the wireless access to the internet, which should perhaps be thrown into the $ comparison?

I ask because I want to compare your suggestion to VDX+Thinmodem+(not wireless, I know).

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Posted by LanMan on 04-09-2001 02:40 PM:

Thumbs up

Another reason to go with the VDX is because it's only $199 at Target stores this week, and a $50 rebate brings it down to $149. That's a deal!

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Posted by steelkilt on 04-09-2001 02:41 PM:

Visor-to-Startac!

mcristia,

I use my graphite VDX with a Motorola Startac ST7867. The cable that connects the two devices is from

http://www.cables4pdas.com

I'm a SPRINT PCS user so for wireless service I've activated Sprint's $29.99/month plan with wireless web (required for Visor-to-startac wireless connectivity), which gives me 180 minutes to use as I wish.

Since I do very little voice calling, this works out nicely for me b/c I use the phone in tandem with the Visor to do e-mail (Eudora -- this is the killer app for me -- love it, it works great with Yahoo POP/SMTP), and AvantGo (I often modem sync avantgo via my wireless connection and it works great). From time-to-time I'll do dynamic web surfing (Blazer), but I find that I really don't have much of a need for that.

In addition, I recommend the PQA Browser from JPMobile at:

http://www.jpmobile.com

This app is really fabulous as it allows VDX users to use PQAs seamlessly. Just load the program, grab PQAs and you're doing what Palm VII users do. Only issue with the JPMobile product is that they're releasing it each month as a demo, so it expires at the end of each month. Eventually, they'll want cash, I imagine, and I will pay b/c this was the only limitation of the VDX (no PQAs b/c of Palm OS 3.1) until JPMobile came along.

Some thoughts on connecting to a cell phone versus buying the all-in-one VisorPhone solution:

I like connecting via cable because I'm not a heavy wireless user. If I was online all the time wirelessly, this might be an issue as connecting/reconnecting phone/cable/Visor could get annoying. However, I love the flexibility: I can do wireless and still have my springboard slot open. Also, I still have wireless if I leave the Visor at home. Startac with Sprint Wireless Web has micro-browser built in so I have the web if I need it. I can even send Yahoo mail from the Startac (though entering data is a nightmare).

Cheers,

/Steelkilt


Posted by mcristia on 04-09-2001 03:42 PM:

Question Re: Visor-to-Startac!

quote:
I use my graphite VDX with a Motorola Startac ST7867. The cable that connects the two devices is from

http://www.cables4pdas.com


Gonna have to see if my wireless provider (Cincinnati Bell Wireless) supports that Motorola Model.
quote:
I'm a SPRINT PCS user so for wireless service I've activated Sprint's $29.99/month plan with wireless web (required for Visor-to-startac wireless connectivity), which gives me 180 minutes to use as I wish.

Since I do very little voice calling, this works out nicely for me b/c I use the phone in tandem with the Visor to do e-mail (Eudora -- this is the killer app for me -- love it, it works great with Yahoo POP/SMTP ...


Sounds like the wireless web is included in the $29.99? The 180 minutes is total voice + web? Imagine there is a per minute charge after that, if you go over?
quote:
Some thoughts on connecting to a cell phone versus buying the all-in-one VisorPhone solution:

I like connecting via cable because I'm not a heavy wireless user ... I love the flexibility: I can do wireless and still have my springboard slot open. ... I can even send Yahoo mail from the Startac (though entering data is a nightmare).


OK, that points to my other concern. Since the the VDX is already connected to the phone via cable, one cannot use a Stowaway, huh? That would be great for responding to em-mail "in real time". I suppose another solution is to prepare a series of shortcuts or use TextPlus or WordComplete to store "boilerplate" responses. Then run-of-the-mill e-mail responses are just a stroke or two away, eh?

Thanks for all the info!

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Posted by steelkilt on 04-09-2001 04:56 PM:

motorola startac models etc.

From

http://www.cables4pdas.com

"Works with the following CDMA phones:

StarTAC� ST7860, ST7860W, ST7867, ST7867W, ST7868, ST7868W phones
Talkabout� T8167 phones
Timeport P8767, P8160, P8167, P8767 phones
V. Series V8160, V8162 phones "

So you have a pretty good range of choices (as long as your carrier offers these models).

Re: wireless web minutes, yes, 180 minutes is total for voice and wireless combined. If I go over, I am charged per minute, though I don't know what the charge is.

And, re: your stowaway concern, I'm beginning to see how you and I differ in terms of our needs. I can't stand carrying a keyboard around. I had one of the original thinkoudside models for the Palm IIIx, and, while I thought it was nicely designed and worked well, I just didn't use it. I've become proficient with Graffiti and use if for all my text entry. Now, if you're talking about writing LOOONG e-mails, then I can see where the Stowaway would be preferred.

/Steelkilt


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