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Posted by kalahari on 05-04-2001 01:35 AM:

Question

I encounter hard resets on my current Prism (and the previous Prism that I had) with surprising regularity. I am currently overclocking and running hacks but I have had an involuntary hard reset occur without any overclocking or hacks. I have a 16MB Prism but used to have these problems before it was upgraded so it's not that either.

Two days ago, I had a hard reset at the end of a HotSync when "Cleaning up" was displayed. Today, I had a hard reset after removing my 16MB Flash Module and inserting a CF Adapter (I don't know if the hard reset occurred during the removal or insertion).

I'd be interested to know if anyone else is seeing these hard resets occurring on the Prism? I am running a lot of third-party apps but I also used to do that on my Deluxe without these problems.


Posted by Matthew Nichols on 05-04-2001 01:43 AM:

My Prism had been having quite a bit of crashes lately so I decided to uninstall verything & then reinstall it, which worked fine. Apps that you delete can leave things behind & often conflict with stuff, if/when I have to do this again I may invest in one of those Uninstall programs.

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Posted by Azdeadwood on 05-04-2001 01:22 PM:

I've had soft resets when removing my 16MB Flash Module but never a hard reset. (A hard reset would wipe out all your data on the Prism.) I found that the problem was the hacks that pointed to programs that were on the Flash. I disable the hacks and that seems to prevent the problem. Also I got a program called "TrapWeaver" from Twilight Edge Software This has signifcantly reduced the number of soft resets I've gotten.

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Posted by kalahari on 05-04-2001 04:09 PM:

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Originally posted by Azdeadwood
I've had soft resets when removing my 16MB Flash Module but never a hard reset. (A hard reset would wipe out all your data on the Prism.) I found that the problem was the hacks that pointed to programs that were on the Flash. I disable the hacks and that seems to prevent the problem. Also I got a program called "TrapWeaver" from Twilight Edge Software This has signifcantly reduced the number of soft resets I've gotten.

Thanks for your info. Hard resets are my problem ;( I don't have any hacks that might be pointing to programs in Flash. I tried TrapWeaver but I had Fatal Errors almost immediately.

I had another hard reset occur last night when running HandWeb. My screen went blank and after attempting a soft reset, I found that a hard reset had occurred.


Posted by knoppi on 05-06-2001 12:13 PM:

i�m using the little program "beanup". you can get it at palmgear - it�s freeware. after running this nice little program one or two times a week, i�ve no more problems with a hard reset.

oliver


Posted by eboychik on 05-06-2001 11:00 PM:

I get a lot of hard resets. Even one is too many, but yes, I get them with surprising regularity. I also have 16 MB, run afterburner and have about a dozen hacks running.I've changed my fonts, and use Khroma to completely redo the color scheme. And I use beanup, which works great, and Victor the cleaner, which now doesn't work very well, and trapweaver, which I find helps and Mem Fragmentation Viewer which does absolutely nothing and recycle which defrags every night for me. Probably it would be worse without these little utilities, but I don't think overall it makes a tremendous difference.

I do find that nearly all the hard resets come when removing a module or reinserting one. I learned the hard way to not only let the operation with the module finish (such as backing up) but then to exit the application completely before removing the module. This stinks, of course. These modules (or the Prism) shouldn't be so sensitive!

I imagine that users who run the basic apps that came with their machines don't have problems. And for those of us who scan PalmGear all day long for the newest apps and updates to old ones and try things out that sometimes don't work, this may be the price we pay.

I tried inWatch, for uninstalling everything. The problems are 1. you have to remember to use it before each installation - it doesn't work automatically. 2. If you install more than one thing at once, you have to remember what you named the file where the multiple apps reside. And 3 (worst of all) - you need to uninstall and reinstall everything through inWatch or you won't know what files are leftovers should you later uninstall everything. A great idea, but not the best solution for us. I have over 700 files on my Visor. Reinstall?
Omnisky, with all its various problems, at least knows how to reinstall itself if the contents get corrupted. It would be nice of the Visor did the same.


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