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Posted by EJSHUMAK on 11-21-2002 06:54 AM:

Is it really over--??

Maybe we are on our own guys--- HS bailing on us for real?

From this web site--

HS "Formal" declaration of the demise of the Visor line--

http://www.treocentral.com/content/Stories/187-2.htm

PS--You have to watch a stupid commercial to get to it-- Sorry--

Posted by Toby on 11-21-2002 11:35 AM:

Are you like that Japanese guy they found on that island? The war has been over, man. Our side lost. Move on. But seriously, ever since Dubinsky's announcement, it should have been obvious. Handspring is out of the 'organizer' business. They're in the 'communicator' business.

Posted by Stardust on 11-21-2002 12:13 PM:

The Visor may be dead but not the Visor community. There are still plenty of strugglers made up of: 1) pennypinchers who drool over Visor clearance sales; 2) newbies; and 3) sentimentalists who can't get over the Springboard technology. The Prism crowd, however, may soon dwindle given the difficulty of getting replacement batteries for ageing li-ions.

Posted by HindeR on 11-21-2002 03:15 PM:

We're #1?

I heard Ed's speech on why they moved from Organizers to Communicators. Apparently they wanted to be number one, not number two behind Palm. I guess, I would rather be number two in a small market than go belly up in larger cell phone market.

When Handspring fails in the communicator market, do you think they will close shop, or will they swallow their pride and go back to organizers? I suppose that all depends on the direction that the Organizer market takes. If all organizers become communicators, I will have to go back to paper organizers. There are some places that you can't take anything that transmits.

Posted by Madkins007 on 11-21-2002 03:36 PM:

Handspring may be odd, but they are not totally stupid- they really are trying to be a cutting edge company.

The entire world of PDAs is changing, and no one is really experiencing the sales they want. The new low-end organizers may help, especially if they can get into the mainstream of retail marketing, but no one is experiencing the sorts of sales everyone envisioned for this field a few years ago.

Now, personally, -I- would reintegrate Handspring and Palm and create three quasi-independent divisions out of it- communicators, organizers, and software/OS.

As long as I am dreaming, I'd also want to see them create a standard hot-sync port so one cradle or keyboard would fit most of the product line, upgradeable flash ROM, dual flash memory capability (CF and SD/MMC, using CF mostly as an 'updated' Springboard slot, if the Springboard is really 'dead'.) I'd love to see them pioneer a decent, low priced color device (I think that would sell well stacked up against Sony)

Ah, to dream!

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Posted by Stardust on 11-21-2002 04:55 PM:

Handspring can still make a big bang. A color PDA without the bells and whistles, whose battery could be replaced as easily as a Nokia cellphone's. That would beat the hell out of Palm and Sony.

Posted by thorin on 11-21-2002 07:45 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Stardust
The Visor may be dead but not the Visor community. There are still plenty of strugglers made up of: 1) pennypinchers who drool over Visor clearance sales; 2) newbies; and 3) sentimentalists who can't get over the Springboard technology.

4) poor students.

otherwsie i'd be representin' with a nrv70.

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Posted by eric2002 on 11-21-2002 08:10 PM:

this is in response to the several references "stardust" has made about not being able to get replacement batteries for the Prism. This is untrue, you can get brand new, higher capacity li-ion recharchable Prism batteries from www.getadeal.com (they make all kinds of laptop and pda batteries) they only cost $39. I am sure more companies will soon be making replacement batteries for the Prism as more Prisms need battery replacement, check out the "prism" / "where can we get new batteries.." section of this discussion/forum for more info. on this.
-eric2002

Posted by edeguzman on 11-21-2002 08:25 PM:

Re: Is it really over--??

quote:
Originally posted by EJSHUMAK
HS "Formal" declaration of the demise of the Visor line--

http://www.treocentral.com/content/Stories/187-2.htm

PS--You have to watch a stupid commercial to get to it-- Sorry-- [/B]

What's kind of interesting EJSHUMAK, i've been using the same title in the thread's i've been starting..."Handspring's Formal Goodbye to Visor Line". Interesting, eh? I also used the same title in my story at www.pocketloft.com

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Posted by eric2002 on 11-21-2002 09:12 PM:

nice story, I've never been to that site... I read through many of the articles.. cool! Yep it does look like Sony is the way to go if you love the Palm OS, I think I am still going to hold out a little longer. I still love my Prism!

Posted by edeguzman on 11-21-2002 10:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by eric2002
nice story, I've never been to that site... I read through many of the articles.. cool! Yep it does look like Sony is the way to go if you love the Palm OS, I think I am still going to hold out a little longer. I still love my Prism!

Thanks. They strive to make the site enjoyable...(Since you love the site, why don't you register? We need all your help...

)

Heh...I would still love my Prism if my screen didn't brake! But as a replacement, I got an NR70.

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Posted by eric2002 on 11-21-2002 10:14 PM:

you lucky dog, an NR70! I have a friend who has one, I've played with it a bit, nice PDA, very nice! I saw a program on one of the clie sites, maybe cliecentral ...the program allowed you to take and edit video with the attached camera, much like the NX70.

yep, i'll go register on the site!
-e

Posted by YoYoman412 on 11-22-2002 12:03 AM:

Re: We're #1?

quote:
Originally posted by HindeR
I heard Ed's speech on why they moved from Organizers to Communicators. Apparently they wanted to be number one, not number two behind Palm. I guess, I would rather be number two in a small market than go belly up in larger cell phone market.

When Handspring fails in the communicator market, do you think they will close shop, or will they swallow their pride and go back to organizers? I suppose that all depends on the direction that the Organizer market takes. If all organizers become communicators, I will have to go back to paper organizers. There are some places that you can't take anything that transmits.

What makes me wonder is why did Ed say that they left the Visors because they did not want to be number 2 in the market. I think they easily could have been #1 and possibly already were. When they released the Visor Prism they tottaly kicked Palms butt when you compared the Visor Prism to the Palm IIIc. Did palm have unlimited expandability like the Visors had with their springboard? No way. The Visors that Handspring had at the time when they decided to switch out of the handheld organizer line could of competed extremly well against the Palms.

Bad excuse for leaving the organizer line Mr. Ed.

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Posted by EJSHUMAK on 11-22-2002 12:50 AM:

Re: Re: Is it really over--??

quote:
Originally posted by edeguzman

What's kind of interesting EJSHUMAK, i've been using the same title in the thread's i've been starting..."Handspring's Formal Goodbye to Visor Line". Interesting, eh? I also used the same title in my story at www.pocketloft.com

What can I say---You're a God--

Posted by edeguzman on 11-22-2002 01:45 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Is it really over--??

quote:
Originally posted by EJSHUMAK

What can I say---You're a God--

hehe...I don't get it...

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Posted by eric2002 on 11-22-2002 01:47 AM:

God being all knowing... you knew what to name your article!, get it??

Posted by edeguzman on 11-22-2002 02:36 AM:

ohhh!!! I get it now...

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Posted by Keefer Lucas on 11-22-2002 02:43 AM:

Reeling in the years

I just want to say...and I am not one to get...you know, real emotional and all that stuff...that despite my sometimes coming down real hard on you guys...that...you know....I am really gonna miss you. Even Toby.

Sniffle. Sniffle.

Posted by Toby on 11-22-2002 02:56 AM:

Re: Reeling in the years

quote:
Originally posted by Keefer Lucas
I just want to say...and I am not one to get...you know, real emotional and all that stuff...that despite my sometimes coming down real hard on you guys...that...you know....I am really gonna miss you. Even Toby.

Sniffle. Sniffle.

Well, you can leave if you want, but as long as someone I know owns a Visor, I'm not likely to. :�

Posted by alight on 11-22-2002 11:46 PM:

Hhhmmm. Let's see now. Handspring goes away (inertia is a killer disease) and we don't. There's product out there and folks still using, buying, trading, replacing parts. There's the Neo-Plat-Deluxe camp. And, next door, the prism camp. etc.

So, hey maybe Walmart, being the risk taking savvy mass merchandisers that they are, could crank out a bunch of $99.00 Visor clones (please shrink wrap them, cuz' I really hate blister packs) and keep the good ole' e-conomy stimulated.

OR

Maybe they'll be featured soon at your local Dollar Store.

Sort of like Windows98SE ... I'm not quittin til I has ta'.

the ebookreader fan!

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