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Posted by Travis on 03-19-2001 01:02 PM:

I've decided not to decide.
I got both Memplug and Matchbookdrive M100.
We are getting some apps that use CF at work - thus the M100.
The Memplug is just neat with all the built in apps and the Cspotrun doc reader that's coming.

I'll check with some Digital Camera fanatics about the life span of CF vs Smartmedia for multiple writes.

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Posted by ajcross on 03-19-2001 07:11 PM:

I did a search on ebay for "smartmedia (64,64MB)" and found a dutch auction for $58+$6 shipping for a 64MB by Samsung. I think "WOW 58.00" was in the title. It was being sold by memtek who also had 128MB smartmedia dutch auction for $128+$6 shipping. He runs each for a week and opens a new one.

But I ended up ordering from newegg.com ($54 & $0 shipping). It was Dane-Elec smartmedia.

Andy Cross

Posted by dkessler on 03-19-2001 09:26 PM:

Re: CF vs SmartMedia

quote:
Originally posted by ajcross
I read a post about digital cameras that a CF card is just Smart Media with a memory controller. This controller can be a transfer speed bottleneck which Smart Media won't have.

Actually, most CF controllers are much faster than the flash chips themselves. In the case of the Visor, the bottleneck is going to be the Springboard bus which is limited by the Dragonball CPU.

quote:
I also saw that a post that CF may not last for as many write cycles as SmartMedia. Can anybody confirm this?

Actually, CF has the advantage in that department. The flash chips in both SmartMedia and current production CF cards are basically the same, but the CF controller has the ability to "map around" bad sectors. Not all SmartMedia devices have this same capability. I've seen some SmartMedia digital cameras that simply move the start of the primary partition ahead a few sectors with each "format" of the SmartMedia card in an effort to keep the heavily written directory and FAT sectors from living in already "worn" sectors.

I'm not trying to bash SmartMedia or MemPlug. MemPlug has a great product worthy of consideration. I just want everyone to have good facts on which to base their decisions

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Posted by EricG on 03-19-2001 10:01 PM:

Thanks for the extra info dkessler!!, the main reasons why I got the memplug was 1, all my stuff uses smartmedia (I don't have any compact flash devices or cards), and 2, I like the built in programs in the springboard's flash memory, and 3, I have had issues with handsprings backup module so I am hoping this resolves the issues I have had. I noticed on another one of your thread posts you said that some of the CF springboard makers are also going make memplug like modules.. (I think CF visor users will be very happy if it's anything like the memplug!)

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Posted by PiDeveloper on 03-20-2001 02:12 AM:

Re: Re: CF vs SmartMedia

quote:
Originally posted by dkessler

Actually, CF has the advantage in that department. The flash chips in both SmartMedia and current production CF cards are basically the same, but the CF controller has the ability to "map around" bad sectors. Not all SmartMedia devices have this same capability. I've seen some SmartMedia digital cameras that simply move the start of the primary partition ahead a few sectors with each "format" of the SmartMedia card in an effort to keep the heavily written directory and FAT sectors from living in already "worn" sectors.

I'm not trying to bash SmartMedia or MemPlug. MemPlug has a great product worthy of consideration. I just want everyone to have good facts on which to base their decisions

FYI-
We use software to handle all the processes needed to be done by the CF Controller. (Dragonball is already a great micro-controller

Memplug with reliable FAT File System and device driver that would handle any bad sectors and sectors mapping stuff. Thus Memplug with the capability to handle bad sectors and won't heavily write on the same sector.

Posted by Potus on 08-02-2001 07:31 AM:

After reading extensively in this forum, I've ordered the MemPlug (SM). Thanks to all for their posts on the various possibilities.

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Posted by cjenkins on 08-09-2001 12:58 AM:

Are there any plans for an MMC adapter? (or are one of these MMC?) I read all the post and didn't notice any mention of it. I'm sitting on a 64M MMC I got on sale because I was expecting support for it on the Geode back in March. D'oh!

Posted by PiDeveloper on 08-09-2001 02:17 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by cjenkins
Are there any plans for an MMC adapter? (or are one of these MMC?) I read all the post and didn't notice any mention of it. I'm sitting on a 64M MMC I got on sale because I was expecting support for it on the Geode back in March. D'oh!

Yes, we will have a SD/MMC adapter for Handspring.
It is all I can say now.

PiDeveloper

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Posted by Swiftshadow on 08-09-2001 02:17 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by cjenkins
Are there any plans for an MMC adapter? (or are one of these MMC?) I read all the post and didn't notice any mention of it. I'm sitting on a 64M MMC I got on sale because I was expecting support for it on the Geode back in March. D'oh!

Well, at the show formerly known as PCExpo, Portable Innovations said that they would be working on an MMC MemPlug. Given that they have already created a SmartMedia and a CompactFlash MemPlug, I don't see any reason to doubt them. They already have the software side covered (the same software that works on either of the MemPlugs would work with the MMC MemPlug) and most of the hardware. I think thats part of the reason why they were able to bring the MemPlug CF so quickly to market. No official announcement has been made and, of course, there is no shipping date. Hope this helps.

Fare thee well,
Swiftshadow

P.S. I am very happy user of MemPlug CF, however, I am not associated with PI in any way.

Posted by Thunderbird291 on 08-18-2001 03:09 AM:

Just a good ole 8MB springboard for me. I don't have enough important info. (basically things I'll really use) to fill up more than 16MB.

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