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Posted by Ludo on 01-12-2000 06:47 PM:

Wink

It seems that Apple is considering selling a PDA based on PalmOS.
I couldn't find anything on the Apple's website but I found some pictures:
http://www.PalmPilot-gaulois.younix.com/p_mac.html

Sorry for the text (it is a french site).

Interesting no?


Posted by JHromadka on 01-12-2000 07:17 PM:

Thumbs up

Thanks Ludo! I posted that link to the conceptional picture in the news.

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Posted by factoid on 01-12-2000 07:57 PM:

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Guys:

Let's not get too hasty. If you look closely at that page and decipher some of the French, this was just a design exercise by an independent designer who is hoping for feedback from Apple. Note that he modified the logo to read Appleple (sic).

This is how rumors get started.

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Posted by jonpod on 01-12-2000 08:37 PM:

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Interesting Design. The huge Apple logo/ latch thing I think gives it away as a nonApple effort, not quite as refined.

But know that Apple will throw a lot of industrial design into this effort.

jonpod


Posted by bpowell423 on 01-13-2000 06:05 PM:

Cool

Sources say the prototype is a hybrid of the Palm V and the Handspring Visor, with the Palm V's form factor, a color screen, and an expansion slot. It also will be compatible with Apple's Airport wireless networking hub, and will integrate seamlessly with the Mac OS.

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Copied from ZDNet today. If that expansion slot is the springboard, it'll be one small step for the iPalm/iNewton/iWhatever and one giant leap for the Springboard.

Would this be a great device or what? Palm V size, color screen and a springboard? What else could you want?


Posted by Ploobers on 01-13-2000 07:46 PM:

Wink

If Apple uses the Springboard expansion slot, that would be the best thing that could happen for the Visor. It would give Handspring a shot in the arm to make them continue to innovate, especially if the iPalm is as good as is rumored. I also read that the handwriting recognition of the Newton was much better than Graffiti, so Apple would probably implement that into the device as well, which would be a welcome addition. All I can say is if this thing is as good and cheap as the Register article makes it out to be, it is going to sweep Palm and Handspring out of the market if they don't respond quickly.

Does anybody know if the Springboard expansion slot is only able to be used by Handspring, or can anyone make a device with Springboard support?


Posted by markedwards on 01-13-2000 09:04 PM:

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Don't get too excited yet. It's 100% speculation at this point. The most credible reports are from anonymous sources and concern the production of prototypes. Even if true, there's no guarantee Apple will ship a product.

As the owner of both a Visor Deluxe and a Newton MessagePad 2100, I've got to address the handwriting recognition subject. In my opinion, the Newton's HWR is far superior to Graffiti. I print in a fairly clean, block style. With the Newton, I get close to 100% accuracy. Most of the errors involve capitalization. It also converts as fast as I can write and I don't have to restrict myself to a special area of the screen. Admittedly, I've only had the Visor for three weeks and I'm still learning Graffiti. But I doubt I'll ever manage to create or edit multi-page documents with it as I have with the MessagePad.

Now even with my preference for the Newton HWR, I doubt it will make it into an Apple branded Palm. It's a simple matter of computing power. I can't quote benchmarks but I do know that the MessagePad 2Ks run on 162MHz StrongARM RISC processors. I'd imagine they offer significantly more computing power than even the fastest DragonBall.

More tantalizing to me is the rumor that under Mac OS X, a Palm will mount on the desktop (or dock?) just like a removeable drive. I don't know about you but to me that sounds like PDA Nirvana.

Again, it's just a rumor. Though the next few months should prove interesting.


Posted by JHromadka on 01-13-2000 09:41 PM:

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Right, everything is pure rumor right now. That's why I said that it was an artist's conception in the news item.

We shall see!

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Posted by jonpod on 01-14-2000 12:35 AM:

Question

I know we are in the wonderful world of rumors here but with all the iMac digital video stuff going on I have seen several ads with Sony digital video cameras.

So instead of either Flash or Springboard - both of which might not "fit" into a Palm V type package, how about MemoryStick.

jp


Posted by gatez on 01-14-2000 12:13 PM:

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agghhhh
Don't tell me I have to buy another toy
btw I miss my newton too :P
g8


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