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Posted by Kintama on 05-22-2001 07:53 AM:

I understand the handspring 8 meg module will run apps from the module but not databases. How do you handle this as a user? When you install apps does it have the smarts to move the PRC to the module and the PDB to the main memory? Also does it have problems looking for the database if it's run from the module? And finally do you have to use one of those file movers to put the PRC there after installing to the main memory? Ok one more question... have you had success with backup buddy backups and restores using it. Ok juuust one more question, if you had to spend the money all over again would you get the 8 meg upgrade from "tony" or buy the module again? And for the REAL final question... do you have another other advice or regrets to share?

I'm loaded up full with 8 megs now, and I've not even put pics or mapopolis on. gads.

James

Posted by j762538 on 05-22-2001 08:43 AM:

You have to move apps with the supplied FileMover. BB will backup but not restore the module. I have upgraded from 2 meg to 8 and from 8 to 16 (different units) but I also have a 8 meg and 16 meg flash modules. I would rather upgrade given a choice.

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Posted by Kintama on 05-23-2001 06:58 AM:

THanks for your feedback. I'd also like to ask, do you have any problems after moving your programs onto the card but have the databases in the main memory... Do the apps not complain they can't find their data while they are running?

Does it seem slower at all while running apps from the module?

Thanks much in advance

James

Posted by Azdeadwood on 05-23-2001 12:46 PM:

I have the 16MB Flash Module. I don't notice any difference in the operating speeds between programs run from flash module versus my Prism. In fact the most recent versions of Afterburner Hack works on the apps On the Flash Module. The other system "Speed Up" program, QuickBits, also works on programs running on the Flash Module.

I leave the Flash in all the time. I do notice if I remove it I have a soft reset. Fortunately I discovered I don't have any reason to remove it!

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Posted by icthus on 05-24-2001 08:39 AM:

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Originally posted by Kintama
I understand the handspring 8 meg module will run apps from the module but not databases.

It will run both apps and databases. You just have to move the databases from the module to the Visor's ram before modifying it. If you are simply accessing/reading it, there is no problem with having the database on the module. You can even move it, modify it, and then move it back, if need be.

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When you install apps does it have the smarts to move the PRC to the module and the PDB to the main memory? Also does it have problems looking for the database if it's run from the module? And finally do you have to use one of those file movers to put the PRC there after installing to the main memory?

Anything you want moved/copied from the Visor to the module, or back, has to be done in the file mover program that comes with the module. The program is already on the module and is accessable anytime you have the module in. I also like to use this program to see what databases go with which programs, and to delete databases that are sometimes left on my visor after the program using them has been deleted.
You can run a program from the module who's databases are on the module or in the visor, and you can run a program on the visor who's databases are on the module. The only real restriction that makes this different than the internal ram (except for a possible few unique programs) is the inability to modify databases that are on the module.

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And for the REAL final question... do you have another other advice or regrets to share?

I love having the module. I have several programs loaded on it, along with several books, and even two Bibles (the program and all the databases for both). I've never had any trouble with it. The only issue I have heard of is people having soem serious problems when they only had a couple of megs of memory left on it. I'm sure you can find several dis. about this on the board. I've never filled it to the limit, and have never had any problems.

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Thanks for your feedback. I'd also like to ask, do you have any problems after moving your programs onto the card but have the databases in the main memory... Do the apps not complain they can't find their data while they are running?

None that I have encountered.

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Does it seem slower at all while running apps from the module?

I don't notice any difference. Also, you might want to look into a program offered by CardAccess, the people who put out the Thinmodem and Thinmodem+. I haven't looked into it, but I believe it may give you teh ability to load/unload files straight to the card, and maybe even back it up. I'll let you look into that one. Hope this helps.

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Posted by sdoersam on 05-24-2001 04:36 PM:

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Originally posted by icthus
Also, you might want to look into a program offered by CardAccess, the people who put out the Thinmodem and Thinmodem+. I haven't looked into it, but I believe it may give you teh ability to load/unload files straight to the card, and maybe even back it up. I'll let you look into that one. Hope this helps.

The USB FileMover app will allow you to make a backup of the 8MB Flash card, but will not allow you to upload files to it. It was designed to work with the Thinmodem and Thinmodem Plus and will only work 2 way with those products. It apparently checks for an id from the modules.

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