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Posted by creole on 04-05-2001 09:08 PM:

ANyone who has used both please post your experiences. I bought my Visor with the intent f buiying one of these. Eyemodule 1's can be found for under $100 on ebay. Is the Eyemodule 2 worth the additional price?

thanks in advance for your input.


Posted by mrknowitall on 04-05-2001 11:23 PM:

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That depends. The original eyemodule had a very reliable shutter. Snap the picture and there you have it... Presto.
The resolution was not best.

The Eyemodule2 allows greater resolution. You can produce a 640 x 480 image easily with this module. With the original eyemodule you would have to use an image editor to enlarge the shot you took, and with the (blow-up) scaling you lose the quality of the image. I find that the Eyemodule2 may produce blurry shots no matter how still you hold the camera during the process. I must admit; however, that I have not treated my new module as well as I could've. Keep them aimed away from sunlight. It has been left in the glove compartment or a chilly car on more than one occasion. I've also been liberal in letting my colleagues and friends use the module.

Read up on them. I've used both modules extensively. The manufacturer is not seemingly biased or dishonest with what they have to say about their products capabilities and/or limitations. "Smart-keting" as I like to call it.

To answer your question, I believe it is worth the price to 'me' as it exceeded my expectations, and I am a fan of the movie-making. There was a couple of reviews written here on this site as well. One proposes the suggestion of implementing a binocular lens. That's kinda creepy. I imagine it would be interesting at a stadium, but I suppose it'd be for bird watching... of all kinds.

*..The Eyemodule2 is a must have for the Prism. What model do you have?

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Posted by miradu on 04-06-2001 12:01 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by creole
Eyemodule 1's can be found for under $100 on ebay.
thanks in advance for your input.



Actually, CompUSA is sellign them for $79 right now!

The problem is, is I want the memplug more!

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Posted by creole on 04-06-2001 04:23 AM:

Talking

what a coincidence...I have the Prism.

It was more a matter of which one to get. I know that I want ONE of them and the EM2 makes more sense as it has the larger resolution AND the movie-making capabilities.

I guess I wanted to hear more on the negative side of the EM2. Is there anyone who DOESN'T like it?

Thanks for your input though. Well-written post!


Posted by creole on 04-06-2001 04:24 AM:

are there any places right now that have deals/rebates/specials on the EM2? If so, then I want to JUMP on it!


Posted by creole on 04-06-2001 06:06 PM:

anyone?


Posted by cptncelchu on 04-06-2001 06:24 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by creole
are there any places right now that have deals/rebates/specials on the EM2? If so, then I want to JUMP on it!


The closest thing I've seen is free shipping at Amazon. The code is AMZNMSNSPRNG.

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Posted by Keith on 04-07-2001 07:28 AM:

Read my response considering the fact that I presently own and have used neither eyemodule (a friend showed me hers once and I thought it was pretty snazzy though).

You want to know negatives of the E2. One thing I've heard is that it doesn't take the picture immediately. You hit the button and have to make sure you hold the camera very still for a few seconds. This may not matter to a photographer but it matters a lot to me. I am considering buying an eyemodule for some robotics projects and research and I want the robot to just grab an image on the fly. Having to stop and hold still to take a picture is absolutely unacceptable to me.

Besides, my robot's vision can have very low resolution (I'll probably downsize the image to 80x60 before running vision algorithms on it), so I don't need the VGA res and I like the idea of spending a third as much on the damn thing.

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Posted by acajigas on 04-07-2001 07:47 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Keith
Read my response considering the fact that I presently own and have used neither eyemodule (a friend showed me hers once and I thought it was pretty snazzy though).

You want to know negatives of the E2. One thing I've heard is that it doesn't take the picture immediately. You hit the button and have to make sure you hold the camera very still for a few seconds. This may not matter to a photographer but it matters a lot to me. I am considering buying an eyemodule for some robotics projects and research and I want the robot to just grab an image on the fly. Having to stop and hold still to take a picture is absolutely unacceptable to me.

Besides, my robot's vision can have very low resolution (I'll probably downsize the image to 80x60 before running vision algorithms on it), so I don't need the VGA res and I like the idea of spending a third as much on the damn thing.





Why is the EM1 so cheap?
Not a tough answer...because it is mainly a cheap toy not a tool. The EM1 lets you capture shapes maily due to the extreme blur and grainy image. However, the EM2 is a most decent tool, it is not perfect but it takes decent pictures if you know how to use it.
If you are worry about taking pictures with movement and no delay ones, use the PalmSize option on the EM2. You will be able to synch to your PC what you see on your Handheld. I've test and I know it works. The EM2 is a tool that needs to be tested (until you get to know it) before using it to maximize its power.

I wouldn't buy the EM1 to use it as a tool, but I would use it for fun if I get it as a gift.

If you have any questions let me know.

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Posted by creole on 04-07-2001 05:01 PM:

well, I am most definitely leaning towards to EM2. It takes movies, plus the images are larger. I can see me being able to take pictures, then HS them to my PC for editing. I liek the large format as it will give me room to downsample the images for better quality.

anyone else?


Posted by cptncelchu on 04-07-2001 05:49 PM:

I was considering getting an EM2 until someone posted a link to the Kodak mc3. It's only $30 more than the EM2 AND it can play mp3s. Even though you would have to carry around two devices, I think it is well worth it.

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Posted by j762538 on 04-07-2001 07:39 PM:

I think you can use AMZNMTENPRCNT for a one time ten percent off.

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Posted by creole on 04-07-2001 07:44 PM:

that would help...


cptncelchu...

where was that link to the Kodak thing? Can it play movies too?


Posted by creole on 04-07-2001 07:57 PM:

wow...that looks rad.

The camera:
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/digital/cameras/mc3/

To purchase it:
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/corp/sto...&CATID=7943

It is the same price as the EM2. A little more if you get the bundled Flash card.

I would go for that in a second as the movies are larger, the images are sharper and it's the same damn price. UI just do't want to carry another device around. That is one of the reasons why I got the Prism in the first place.

DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by mrknowitall on 04-10-2001 08:10 AM:

Talking

quote:
Originally posted by mrknowitall
...The original eyemodule had a very reliable shutter. Snap the picture and there you have it... Presto. The resolution was not best... There was a couple of reviews written here on this site as well. One proposes the suggestion of implementing a binocular lens. That's kinda creepy. I imagine it would be interesting at a stadium, but I suppose it'd be for bird watching... of all kinds.



hmm...interesting at a stadium? birdwatching? <Wayne's world dream sequence noise>

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Posted by creole on 04-11-2001 12:18 AM:

damn mrknowitall...

that is sweet. Thanks. That is the regular EM right?

can't wait for the EM 2 pics.


Posted by mrknowitall on 04-11-2001 02:56 AM:

Talking

Thanks creole!

Correct! That is eyemodule1. I neglected to mention that I did not clean the lens before shooting. That should explain why my brew is speckled. You normally see those grains when indoors and/or in poor light. I recall sufficient light during that shot.

KC is visiting on Saturday. I'm going to get to the park a bit earlier and see if I can take a shot close up where field meets fan.

I had a look through my company's binoculars. If you're a ball fan, I think you would've really liked a shots of (incl. facial expressions) of pitchers on the mound looking in at the signs while the batters were staying loose, but like I said, I won't be conducting more of those experiments. I don't know if I'll be in the same section.

My EM2 hasn't come back yet. I'd taken a picture of a red carpet with EM1. Heh heh.

The Jays just won again on a Jose Cruz homerun! I hope to capture at least contact, a doubleplay
(a tripleplay if I'm lucky) or a decent catch in the outfield with the film feature.

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Posted by creole on 04-11-2001 03:28 AM:

so would you recommend the EM2? Even with the major difference in price? I personally can't see any reason to buy the EM1 when the EM2 is so much better.


Posted by mrknowitall on 04-11-2001 04:24 AM:

Talking

In a word, I'd say yes; however, this is up to you to decide.

Quite honestly due to the time (duration between months, seasons) of these acquisitions, I've taken many more shots with the Eyemodule, and I haven't taken full advantage of the potential of the EM2. With so many opportunities this summer... blue(r) skies...vibrant colours... nice weather.. worthwhile objects and locations, I'm arguably as curious and as anxious you are.

I'd go for evaluating both. You can't go wrong with the resolution and movies... and as Acajigas posted. It's how you use it! Heh heh.

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Posted by creole on 04-11-2001 04:32 AM:

true dat...

I think I have made up my mind anyway. I was just really hopign to get some dissenting opinions. You know...people who have had the EM2 and DIDN'T like it.


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