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Re: About S105

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Originally posted by michaelliumm
The Samsung S105 supports over 65,000 colors while the Treo only supports 4,000. The S105 also has higher density pixels, creating a sharper looking screen. It also has an IR port for communication with other devices.

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I Agree

I couldn't have said it better myself. Look, people want a phone to be a phone. They want their cell phones small and sleek and they want good looking screens. Now the S105 has basic PIN functions on par with those of the PalmOS. But is the added ability to add Palm Apps to your phone justifiable for the Treo's size and demeaner? After all, once you get tired of the thought have having a hybrid communicator, you'll still be using it just as a phone 90% of the time. Get the best of both worlds, a Sony T68i or Motorola V.60g or a Samsung A500 with a Tungsten T or Clie NX70.

Re: I Agree

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Originally posted by michaelliumm
I couldn't have said it better myself. Look, people want a phone to be a phone. They want their cell phones small and sleek and they want good looking screens.

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Be Realistic Here

How many times are you honestly going to stop in the middle of an airport or in a taxi to plug ur cell phone into your pda with a wobbly cord? Unless you're a technophile that does it constantly for novelty, I would guess no often. It's all about quick, convenient, stylish access to key information and functions. That's a what many new color screen cell phone o GPRS provide. Rich content that's quick, easy, and fun to use, without the Treo's baggage.

Re: Be Realistic Here

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Originally posted by michaelliumm
How many times are you honestly going to stop in the middle of an airport or in a taxi to plug ur cell phone into your pda with a wobbly cord?

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Yeah

If they had stuck with the Visor and developed it into a class leading machine, then it would still be very competetive today. Unfortunately, they adopted a different philosophy and tried to get on the crossover bandwagon. History has proved that pda phones just don't work very well and aren't widely accepted. Now the Treo may be the market's best attempt to date, but that isn't saying much. You're right in that Handspring should have stuck with refining the organizer, because it's clear people would rather have the two (pda and phone) seperately.

yeah, a Prism w/just one or 2 of the newer things Sony puts into its pdas (hi res or + or 320x320) would slam dunk all the others

even the great Sonys don't have periph like SB, and you have to wait for modems, kybds, etc

I Agree

I guess the only REAL problem is that the industry is sick of the names Visor and Springboard. The two words already have a connotation of failure or backward progression. No one is willing to invest in anymore Visor products, especially if they involve Springboard. The only remote way they could get away with it is if they took out the springboard/ detacheable springboard and added highend features.

The "industry" may be sick of them, but they're still selling. And if you took out the Springboard you wouldn't have a product, as the Edge demonstrated.

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Re: Yeah

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Originally posted by michaelliumm
If they had stuck with the Visor and developed it into a class leading machine, then it would still be very competetive today. Unfortunately, they adopted a different philosophy and tried to get on the crossover bandwagon.

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They didn't need to take that risk. If they had come out with a "Prism Pro" instead of the Treo 90, it would have cost them less in development costs and sold a lot better.

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The screensizes are different to. You'd proabably have an "easier" time with a Prizm screen.

Prism Pro

A Prism Pro would have been really kool. But they still would have had to change the casing. It was getting old. Otherwise, the insides just needed OS5 and and ARM processor and more expansion besides springboard. Oh, and a high def screen. Plus they needed to price it under $400. So after saying all that, I guess I would conclude that if they had brought out a Prism Pro right after the first generation went, then it would have been a lot easier then making the treo90. But if they were to do it today with everything people would expect now, I'm sure the developement costs would be astronomical. And if you look at the Tungsten T, you see that it just isn't worth it. Therefore, the Treo 90 wasn't a terrible idea. They aimed lower and it payed off. At least sort of.

Re: Prism Pro

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Originally posted by michaelliumm
if they had brought out a Prism Pro right after the first generation went, then it would have been a lot easier then making the treo90.

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What's ur point?

That was back in the late nineties. Visor's only truly brilliant innovation was the springboard, but that just didn't catch on. And it stopped innovating and died. So yeah ur right, but what's ur point? When the visor had 10-20% market share, there were MUCH fewer models available in general and also that was back when it was still fairly in the now to have a visor. But like I said, they just stopped innovating and improving it at the springboard, so it couldn't have stayed alive. Its a matter of time and industry change.

I think everyones phone is broken but mine.

I charge it every night.
talk for about 60+ min a day use about 20 minutes of vision (active data tranfers) do a LOT of txt messaging and email on my phone



I charge it at about 1am each night and it is almost always on the last black bar or just going on RED but NEVER has died


using it on my laptop as a modem for more then 45min kills it but other then that Im completely fine


you all have defective TREO's or do not know what you are doing

Re: What's ur point?

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Originally posted by michaelliumm
That was back in the late nineties. Visor's only truly brilliant innovation was the springboard, but that just didn't catch on. And it stopped innovating and died.

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