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Posted by Palm Critic on 10-20-2000 06:24 AM:

I know the Visor Platinum is new, and many of the visitors here are chatting it up like crazy. My question for you is, why would you pay $50 more for a Visor Platinum device over a Visor Deluxe? Here are the benefits as I see them:

Visor Platinum
- The Latest Version of Palm OS (3.5.2H)
- 50% Faster Device

Visor Deluxe
- $50 Cheaper
- 5 Color Options

...Basically you are getting a new Operating System, and a slightly faster unit. Most Palm OS software is lightning fast as it is, so the speed isn't a huge benefit. Is all this worth $50 and the loss of color casing?

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Posted by Tan Kit Hoong on 10-20-2000 07:04 AM:

Visor Deluxe? What's a Visor Deluxe?

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Posted by Usonian on 10-20-2000 07:20 AM:

Add 16-level grayscale to the list of pros for the Platinum (Yes, it's part of OS 3.5, but it's worth mentioning.) The difference in image quality as compared to Visor/Visor Deluxe 4-level grayscale is night and day... not a big deal to some people, but the more I play with images on my Visor Deluxe, the more frustrated I'm getting.

I'm holding out for a Prism, though, now that I know it will work with my Stowaway.

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Posted by Palm Critic on 10-20-2000 08:30 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Usonian
Add 16-level grayscale to the list of pros for the Platinum (Yes, it's part of OS 3.5, but it's worth mentioning.)

Good point, but is it worth $50 for added shades of grey?

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Posted by Eug on 10-20-2000 02:06 PM:

Again re: OS 3.5... don't forget the more complete infrared support for the truly mobile user. This will work with the Visor Deluxe with 3rd party software but it's always nice to have it built-in (no extra software costs and potentially better application support). The extra speed is a nice bonus, but not the main selling point of the Platinum in my view.

My current PDA recommendation of choice to friends is one of the two, depending on their needs. However, they still go and order the Prism. :P

Posted by Winchell on 10-20-2000 02:23 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Palm Critic
Visor Platinum
- 50% Faster Device
...Basically you are getting a new Operating System, and a slightly faster unit.

Well, not to put too fine a point on it, but in my book, a 50% improvement is a whole lot more that "slightly".

With my flash ram springboard, I've got so many apps on my Visor that it takes about half a minute for the Delete dialog to pop up. There are other places where my large number of apps and docs result in a performance slowdown.

A 50% increase in performance would be quite welcome.

Posted by Ash on 10-20-2000 05:00 PM:

If I were buying a new Handspring device today, it'd be a Platinum (although I'm not too crazy about the light grey color).

The Prism seems to expensive to me. I haven't seen a Prism yet, but I wasn't all that impressed with the Palm IIIc that I saw at Best Buy.

I've run into several apps that wouldn't work at all on an OS less than 3.5. Nothing I can't live without, but it might be nice to have.

I doubt I'll buy a Platinum anytime soon though. There just isn't enough difference between my Graphite Visor Deluxe and the Platinum for me to justify spending that much money.

Posted by MIKE STH on 10-20-2000 05:03 PM:

Ummm....I did. No regrets yet except for all the hoopla over the Prism, but I'll know more as I use it. It definately DOES respond faster and I just finished syncing and populating the Platnium. Again, time will tell, the only thing I have noticed so far is my pistures for ONLY ME aren't appearing. Probably just needs a tweek.

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Posted by yardie on 10-20-2000 05:45 PM:

Don't forget the Color

Don't forget the nice silver colour of the platinum. It is elegant and solid and will be a nice replacement for my Ice Visor Deluxe.

Posted by Palm Critic on 10-20-2000 05:54 PM:

Re: Don't forget the Color

quote:
Originally posted by yardie
Don't forget the nice silver colour of the platinum. It is elegant and solid and will be a nice replacement for my Ice Visor Deluxe.

Oh, I had that as a negative

. I think the 5 color options for the Visor Deluxe should be mirrored for the Platinum. They could keep the back of the device silver, but provide color options for the front of the device.

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Posted by Tan Kit Hoong on 10-21-2000 01:47 PM:

Yeah, I was hoping for some colour options for the Platinum too - mebbe some new translucent colours.

The cheesy silver (IMHO) colour was what decided me against it and for the Prism instead, which has at least a nice Bluish colour.

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Posted by mnartker on 10-21-2000 02:55 PM:

I would welcome the faster processor and OS upgrade, but I think that the painted case is a bad idea. I use the Handspring plastic belt clip case, and love the convenience, but the sliding wore the paint off the middle of the arrow keys. Now imagine what it would look like if the paint was worn from the front, sides, and edges of the backo ot the Platinum. Very shabby I expect. A graphite Platinum (or another more platinum-ish color that doesn't need a coat of paint) would be much better from a durability standpoint.

Posted by ToolkiT on 10-23-2000 02:47 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by mnartker
I would welcome the faster processor and OS upgrade, but I think that the painted case is a bad idea. I use the Handspring plastic belt clip case, and love the convenience, but the sliding wore the paint off the middle of the arrow keys. Now imagine what it would look like if the paint was worn from the front, sides, and edges of the backo ot the Platinum. Very shabby I expect. A graphite Platinum (or another more platinum-ish color that doesn't need a coat of paint) would be much better from a durability standpoint.

Who said it was painted silver? In my understanding it is made of silver plastic...

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Posted by yardie on 10-23-2000 03:16 AM:

Platinum is made with Silver plastic not painted silver.

Posted by ToolkiT on 10-23-2000 04:35 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by yardie
Platinum is made with Silver plastic not painted silver.

Thanx for the clarification!!

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Posted by Visorholic on 10-23-2000 05:58 AM:

I know this would be expensive but could you change cases on the Platinum with the Deluxe?

-VisorHolic

Posted by ToolkiT on 10-23-2000 06:42 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Visorholic
I know this would be expensive but could you change cases on the Platinum with the Deluxe?

-VisorHolic

I think it should be possible.... I guess we have to wait till somebody opens his new platinum and his old deluxe and makes some pics to see the difference...

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Posted by jj_w on 10-23-2000 06:44 AM:

Actually it's both. Silver painted silver plastic. You can see this by looking at the sides of the battery cover, and the dummy Springboard.

Posted by Arker on 10-25-2000 10:56 PM:

I for one am blown away by the fact that only HALF of the users who voted on the VisorMeter thing on the front page on my website are keeping thier old Visor. Not that this is a bad thing but I was just suprised that that many people consider colour/lithium batteries that important. I think that both of those are great ideas but just not worth buying a complete new machine that cannot be more than a year old. There are other bonuses I know with the two new units but I would think those are the major two. The speed is much improved apparently but waiting for Datebk4 to boot up on my Vdx doesn't add alot of time to my day. I guess that just tells ya how 'on the bleeding edge' us PDA users are in general eh?

When I saw the VisorMeter results to date I made two assumsions. First of all I assumed that all users are currently owners of a Visor, and second of all that those who voted for either the Prism or the Platinum are actually replacing thier unit and just not saying that "If I were going to replace my Visor this is what I'd get.". At the time of this post the polls had 738 participants.

Cheers,

Arker.

Posted by Winchell on 10-26-2000 04:21 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Arker
I for one am blown away by the fact that only HALF of the users who voted on the VisorMeter thing on the front page on my website are keeping thier old Visor. Not that this is a bad thing but I was just suprised that that many people consider colour/lithium batteries that important.

Well, my excuse is that there were a couple of applications I wanted to develop for the Visor that flat out just wouldn't work in monochrome. Like a red-blue 3-D glasses display program.

But I agree that the number of people voting to jump to a Prism was surprising.

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