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Posted by foo fighter on 08-18-2001 08:48 PM:

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Originally posted by homer
Microsoft, albeit having a much larger army, has been taking Windows CE forward by leaps and bounds. Palm has done very little to advance the pace of evolution of the Palm OS.

The only real advantage Microsoft has right now, in terms of a robust "next generation" embedded OS vs. PalmOS, is timing. Meaning WinCE is already at the place where Palm is heading, while Palm is still 6-12 months away at the very least. PocketPC will continue to gain marketshare on Palm in the meantime, but the tide could turn against Microsoft in a big way if this new Palm/Be OS turns out to be the black knight it looks to become.

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I'm very happy for Be. It's a great OS and does not deserve to die. I hope Palm keeps developing the full desktop OS as well...

Sad to say, but I think this spells the end for the BeOS as a desktop OS. As wonderful and innovative as it was, BeOS was going nowhere. It never acheived acceptance or developer support. That was stolen by Linux. I've always believed the only hope for Linux to achieve success on the desktop, was to layer the BeOS GUI on top of the Linux kernel. Palm could now license out the GUI to Linux distro firms like RedHat or Debian. This could help catapult Linux to success while making Palm a very rich company.

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Posted by dick-richardson on 08-18-2001 09:05 PM:

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Palm could now license out the GUI to Linux distro firms like RedHat or Debian. This could help catapult Linux to success while making Palm a very rich company.

There isn't a linux distibutor that would go for that, and you know it. If it ain't free, they ain't selling it.

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Posted by homer on 08-18-2001 09:19 PM:

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The only real advantage Microsoft has right now, in terms of a robust "next generation" embedded OS vs. PalmOS, is timing.

But, remember, that's usually the only advantage one needs in the marketplace

The idea of BeOS being a Linux GUI. Perhaps Palm can buy up fellow ex-apple people Eazel while they are at it. Eazel apps + BeOS GUI + Linux would make an incredible desktop OS.

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Posted by Galley_SimRacer on 08-20-2001 03:16 AM:

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Originally posted by dick-richardson

Likewise. I may go with BeOS on a home built system, esp. if there would be amazingly tight integration with my visor. Otherwise, I'm going debian.

OmicronSoft has released the first beta of their Palm Reflections syncing software tis week. It's nice, but has no USB support yet, as Handspring won't release the specs to them.
Check it out here

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Posted by bookrats on 08-27-2001 05:44 PM:

New Palm OS Subsidiary CEO -> Palm 5 == BeOS?

The new CEO for the Palm OS subsidiary is David Nagel, a guy who's had a lot of UI experience, and was at Apple back in the 80s.

Wonder if this is yet another sign that Palm OS 5 == BeOS?

At any rate, Nagel appears to be a guy with some real technical credentials -- he was head at NASA's Ames Research Center Human Factor's group.

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Posted by thewitt on 08-27-2001 09:35 PM:

My bet is that Palm bought BeOS for the multi-tasking kernal. It has nothing to do with the GUI, and everything to do with a multi-tasking OS running on the StrongARM processor.

Palm is not going to replace their simple UI with a complex GUI. It's not in the cards.

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Posted by homer on 08-28-2001 01:53 AM:

Not that I'm advocating a more complex interface, but what's the point of a multitasking OS if the interface doesn't allow for multitasking?

Also, as a desktop interface, I wouldn't say that BeOS is complex. That said, I have not seen their OS used on an internep appliance.

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Posted by thewitt on 08-28-2001 02:37 PM:

Changes in the toolbox calls to support multiple active applications would result in significant improvements in application interoperability.

Multiple active applications would speed up TCP/IP or serial applications, would allow for simutaneous use of an application and a bluetooth interface, etc.

Multiple active windows will be enough of a change to the OS as it is. Where is the "close box" today? You're right, it doesn't exist.

Applications that today get suspend and activate events may indeed get multiple activate events and no suspend in a multitasking model.

I for one, applaud it.

I've written a couple of serial applications and they are very convoluted today. All external I/O applications will benefit, but don't look for the UI to get any more complicated than it is. It's still the drawing card for non-techies.

-t

Posted by bookrats on 08-28-2001 06:04 PM:

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Originally posted by thewitt
All external I/O applications will benefit, but don't look for the UI to get any more complicated than it is. It's still the drawing card for non-techies.

And should be.

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