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Posted by bkbk on 03-16-2001 03:23 AM:

Re: Just fifteen minutes

quote:
Originally posted by Bane
<snip> It does refer to some kind of a smart card technology that ncr has never implimented.<snip>

I bet next week NCR says it owns all SmartCards.

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Posted by Black_Dragon on 03-16-2001 03:32 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Gameboy70

Fortunately, there's footage of Doug Engelbardt using hypertext in the late sixties, which invalidated BT's claim.



For those interested in such things, the movie of which he speaks can be found here:

http://vodreal.stanford.edu/engel/08engel200.ram

Requires RealPlayer ( http://www.real.com/ )

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Posted by yardie on 03-16-2001 03:38 AM:

Arrow This lawsuit is ridiculous

This lawsuit is just plain stupid. What a waste of time and money. The only ones to gain from this mess will be the lawyers who convince NCR to sue.


Posted by cse969 on 03-16-2001 04:31 AM:

Re: Re: Just fifteen minutes

quote:
Originally posted by bkbk

I bet next week NCR says it owns all SmartCards.



"All your smartcard are belong to us".

Kinda sad when you haveto laugh at your own joke ...

Actually, in my wallet I have three pices of digital media that facilitate financial transactions :
1. American Express "Blue".
2. Fist USA Visa
3. Telstra Phone Card.

Each of these are digital (they have "Smart Chip" technology), are credit card sized (hell, two of them ARE credit cards), and they facilitate financial transactions.

NCR need to look for a definition if PRIOR ART, but if nothing else, law suits like this get investors interested in stock again, hoping to ride the coat tails of a potential windfall ...


Posted by D ev R ay 4Real on 03-16-2001 05:17 AM:

Best I can tell they dont have much of a case.

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Posted by Bane on 03-16-2001 05:23 AM:

Cool better than baywatch

I can think of nothing more gratifying than watching an angery mob of villagers armed with farm impliments rip appart the people who created this lawsuit. The thought brings a smile to my face.

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Posted by Travis on 03-16-2001 03:30 PM:

Angry

This is Definitely a Bravo Sierra suit. The thing that scares me is how much money is Handspring going to have to siphon away from R&D etc. Just to show it's a pointless suit. To bad Handspring can't recoup legal expenses when its all said and done!

Anybody got an NCR gif we can burn in effigy?

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Posted by DBrown on 03-16-2001 04:46 PM:

I suspect NCR is suing specifically for the "transaction" technology that Palm demonstrated at a recent CES (or similar) trade show. Basically, the palm served as the money device, and using it's IR port(or potentially Blue Tooth) communicated with the sales register to handle the transaction. Instead of a sales receipt, your palm screen would prompt you to OK or DENY a charge against your account. Account balances would be updated on the Palm. Transaction records would also be stored, potentially to be sorted, categorized, and used with TAX or accounting software. It could (and should) also update the bank's records for your account online when you next hotsync the device.

And Handspring gets sucked in because undoubtably it is working on the same technology, to remain compatible with the palm devices that may come out in the future supporting it.

I could be wrong, though. In fact, I usually am. ;-)

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Posted by argent on 03-16-2001 07:16 PM:

If this is based on Palm *adding* transaction technology to an existing product, it's more like the Apple Records versus Apple Computer case.

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Posted by jclarke4 on 03-19-2001 09:01 PM:

Question

I thought you could only hold the Patent rights for 7 years? the Date on the patent looks like 1987 to me.

Am I wrong about this?


Posted by TimberLake on 03-20-2001 03:10 AM:

Well it wouldnt kill Palm to have to fork over some royalties to another comapny since they have been getting about 6.00 per unit os fees from comapnies like HS, Sony etc....

Spread the wealth


Posted by bookrats on 03-20-2001 06:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Gameboy70
I think it was IBM that sued Palm over Graffiti


quote:
Originally posted by Matthew Nichols


Actually, I beleive it was Xerox.



Who also sued Apple over the Mac UI years after the Mac had been out. (The Mac UI had pretty direct family ties to Xerox's STAR systems.) One wonders if Xerox's main source of income these days is their legal department.

As I remember it, Xerox lost pretty decisively in their Apple litigation; they had a strong case, but they waited way too long to do anything about it.

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