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Posted by budkow on 10-30-2000 06:24 PM:

Thumbs up It will work with MOST VDX, but you can exchange...

From the Handspring site (http://www.handspring.com/support/ts_glenayre.jhtml):

quote:

I heard that my Visor won�t support wireless modules because of RF (radio frequency) interference, is this true?

Some Visor Solo, Visor, or Visor Deluxe handhelds may not perform optimally with two wireless communications Springboard modules. These include the Glenayre @ctiveLink and Novatel Minstrel S modules. Handspring has worked closely with these developer partners to optimize the performance of the combined solution of the Visor handheld and module. If a customer uses the handheld and module together and is not satisfied with the communication performance, Handspring is offering a free Visor advance exchange unit. Details are packed inside the box of the Glenayre @ctiveLink and Novatel Minstrel S modules.



Basically you can just exchange your current VDX for a new one...Sounds good to me!

Anywho, I've ordered my Minstrel, and I can't WAIT to get chunking along with the super slow 19.2kbps connection. Hopefully my SDSL won't have spoiled me TOO much and I'll still be able to enjoy the main reason I bought the Visor in the first place (wireless access).

-Ben


Posted by skydiver1118 on 10-30-2000 10:04 PM:

Cool kyakboy - Can you use TELNET/FTP/IRC?

Kyakboy, glad to know that Visor is working with Yadayada wireless. I wonder whether you have tried telnet or IRC on the wireless service yet. Yadayada's service man told me that I could do it but I'd like someone who is using it to confirm it. Appreciate if you can answer my quesiton.

Lijian


Posted by wjgrun on 10-30-2000 10:10 PM:

Question $100.00 Rebate - Too Late!!?

I just got off the phone with yadayada.com. I was told that the $100.00 rebate for current VDX owners who upgraded to one of the new visors has been cancelled. If anyone has a contact who will still honor the $100 rebate, please let me know -- [email protected]. Thanks,

Bill


Posted by kyakboy on 10-30-2000 10:51 PM:

Exclamation VDX upgrade notice

I was having trouble with the VDX today and could not get to the Telnet or FTP sites. So I will have to let you know tomorrow. Why tomorrow? I 'm getting to that.

I called Handspring to see if they are exchanging the VDX for the 3.5 OS systems. They said yes, but I have to get a coupon from Novatel to exchange the VDX. So I called Novatel and told them I have a VDX with a MinS. He said" You have a what, they aren't even shipped yet." So I come to find out I am the first person to Novatel about this. They have NO coupons, and they don't plan on having them. So I was told to call Handspring back.

I called Handspring and told them the story and they called Novatel while I was on hold. I few minutes later, they took my information, my credit card number and promised me a brand spanking new VDX with OS 3.5 installed tomorrow via FedEx. (Credit card number was needed just in case I didn't return my old on).

So here is the continuing saga of me and my VDX/MinS system.

I will let you know more when I get it work tomorrow.

PS-When the Minstrel S arrives from YadaYada, you don't have to do the Setup Wizard, the MinS is all set to run from when you plug it in. It will find the service and connect to the correct IP address then you are all set to go.

Have fun.

Mike


Posted by BrianX124 on 10-31-2000 02:50 AM:

So it is for sure?

So its for sure that they are exchanging old visors for new units with the 3.5 os installed? Can I send mine in before I buy the minstrel and recieve the new unit earlier you think? Let me know how the new unit turns out.


-Brian

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Posted by pusfarm on 10-31-2000 08:18 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by MIKE STH
As I posted early yesterday morning, Yada Yada uses Verizon's network...if you have Verizon in your area, it will work.


I had my jaundiced eye on OmniSky, but they pissed me off. Another, less "inflamed," reason to go with YadaYada - despite their name - is the coverage area. Check this out:

http://www.verizon.com/prodserv/maps/wrless_map.html
http://www.omnisky.com/products/coverage.jhtml

If you live within OmniSky's little dots, and don't plan to ever travel outside of them, you might like their service.
Am I reading this wrong or is there really that much area in which OmniSky CANNOT be used? Maybe service is available with roaming charges? Please set me straight if I'm wrong.


Posted by mxgian on 10-31-2000 02:42 PM:

verizon coverage are

Are you sure that verizon's coverage are for the Minstrel is the same as their coverage area for their wireless phones? I thought someone said that it uses a different network (which is why it's always on, no dial-up). If we need to find a coverage map for the Minstrel on VZ's network, the one you posted is the map for the voice wireless phones (which is really good )

Minh


Posted by Toby on 10-31-2000 02:52 PM:

Re: verizon coverage are

quote:
Originally posted by mxgian
Are you sure that verizon's coverage are for the Minstrel is the same as their coverage area for their wireless phones? I thought someone said that it uses a different network (which is why it's always on, no dial-up). If we need to find a coverage map for the Minstrel on VZ's network, the one you posted is the map for the voice wireless phones (which is really good )


Much better than their CDPD coverage (which is what would apply to the Minstrel)

http://www.verizonwireless.com/mobile_ip/coverage.html


Posted by JHromadka on 10-31-2000 03:50 PM:

Good thing I live in Houston and not Gainesville where VC is based

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Posted by mxgian on 10-31-2000 05:15 PM:

got you beat James...

James,

I'm glad i live on the east coast (dc area), wow coverage there is great! sf is not bad either (and chicago is good too, while i wait at ohare for my always delayed flight, i can write email!), i'm set as long as i don't go outside these areas

now if only I was sure that it will work with my vdx!

Minh


Posted by kyakboy on 10-31-2000 05:28 PM:

Wink VDX YadaYada upgrade update

Got that e-mail from YadaYada I was waiting for. If you purchase a Minstrel S through YY, you will recieve a coupon good for exchanging your current VDX OS 3.1 for a new VDX 3.5 from Handspring.

You will have to call HS with the coupon number and your credit card (to cover their butt if you keep both) and they will send you the updated VDX. I also heard an un-official rumor (someone correct me if I am wrong) that the new VDX are flash upgradable.

Seeya.

Mike


Posted by Felipe on 10-31-2000 05:34 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by pusfarm
quote:
Originally posted by MIKE STH



I had my jaundiced eye on OmniSky, but they pissed me off. Another, less "inflamed," reason to go with YadaYada - despite their name - is the coverage area. Check this out:

http://www.verizon.com/prodserv/maps/wrless_map.html
http://www.omnisky.com/products/coverage.jhtml

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With your link, I was going to go with Yada Yada, but with the second link posted later it seems omnisky has the better coverage.

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My Treo 600 is my phone, my PDA, my watch, and my MP3 player. Oh yeah, I take a picture once in a while with it. Convergence is such a great thing.


Posted by Toby on 10-31-2000 06:59 PM:

Angry Re: VDX YadaYada upgrade update

quote:
Originally posted by kyakboy
Got that e-mail from YadaYada I was waiting for. If you purchase a Minstrel S through YY, you will recieve a coupon good for exchanging your current VDX OS 3.1 for a new VDX 3.5 from Handspring.


This basically amounts to $150 to upgrade the VDx.

quote:
You will have to call HS with the coupon number and your credit card (to cover their butt if you keep both) and they will send you the updated VDX. I also heard an un-official rumor (someone correct me if I am wrong) that the new VDX are flash upgradable.



I have mixed feelings about this. If they're having an exchange program in this case, why not offer up existing VDx owners an option as well even if they're not currently upgrading. At least sell me a ROM board that I can replace myself. Sheesh.

*taps feverishly into VDx to make note to see Handspring reps in person a Comdex in 10 days or so*


Posted by pusfarm on 10-31-2000 11:08 PM:

Re: verizon coverage are

quote:
Originally posted by mxgian
Are you sure that verizon's coverage are for the Minstrel is the same as their coverage area for their wireless phones? I thought someone said that it uses a different network (which is why it's always on, no dial-up). If we need to find a coverage map for the Minstrel on VZ's network, the one you posted is the map for the voice wireless phones (which is really good )

Oops, thanks for pointing that out. And I thought OmniSky's was bad!! I'm on the west coast and Verizon doesn't even have service in my area.

Toby: Thanks for the correct link.


Posted by pusfarm on 10-31-2000 11:15 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Felipe
quote:
Originally posted by pusfarm

I had my jaundiced eye on OmniSky, but they pissed me off. Another, less "inflamed," reason to go with YadaYada - despite their name - is the coverage area. Check this out:

http://www.verizon.com/prodserv/maps/wrless_map.html
http://www.omnisky.com/products/coverage.jhtml



With your link, I was going to go with Yada Yada, but with the second link posted later it seems omnisky has the better coverage.
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Yeah, sorry about that. Neither are great coverage, but OmniSky looks like the better of the two. I hope the overall coverage areas get better.


Posted by Rob on 10-31-2000 11:17 PM:

Re: Re: VDX YadaYada upgrade update

quote:
Originally posted by Toby
quote:
Originally posted by kyakboy
Got that e-mail from YadaYada I was waiting for. If you purchase a Minstrel S through YY, you will recieve a coupon good for exchanging your current VDX OS 3.1 for a new VDX 3.5 from Handspring.


This basically amounts to $150 to upgrade the VDx.



Umm...that's only true if you throw away the modem once you get it. What it REALLY amounts to is that people who don't want wireless can't get their OS upgraded, but if they wanted to get a wireless modem anyway (Minstrel S or Glenayre @ctivelink), they can exchange their VDX for a new one with OS3.5 for free.


Posted by Charo on 11-01-2000 04:50 AM:

Thumbs down

quote:
Originally posted by MIKE STH
As I posted early yesterday morning, Yada Yada uses Verizon's network...if you have Verizon in your area, it will work.


YY's answer to my inquiry (we have Verizon & AT&T here):

Right now our data base is not showing that your area is covered. Sorry for that. Keep us in mind when Verison or AT&T cover your area with CDPD sevice.


Posted by bpinette on 11-01-2000 04:59 AM:

From the thread, it would appear that the best bet for going with YadaYada is by way of the VDX exchange program. It also looks like you will need to educate their sales reps on the existence of this option.

Just to muddy the waters further, here's my experience with trying to buy a YadaYada modem: I called the 800 number, said I was interested in a modem, but I had two concerns. First, was I in their coverage area? I was. Second, I mentioned that I had heard there were some problems with RF interference in the VDX. The sales rep said thatthey would absolutely not work with OS 3.1; only 3.3 (and presumably higher). I admit that I was surprised to hear that, since I had thought that the interoperability problem was due to ardware. The rep also said that some people had claimed to have upgraded their Visors to 3.3, but also indicated that this was not possible or that the upgrade was not to be trusted. He never mentioned an exchange program.


Posted by MIKE STH on 11-01-2000 09:55 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Charo
quote:
Originally posted by MIKE STH
As I posted early yesterday morning, Yada Yada uses Verizon's network...if you have Verizon in your area, it will work.


YY's answer to my inquiry (we have Verizon & AT&T here):

Right now our data base is not showing that your area is covered. Sorry for that. Keep us in mind when Verison or AT&T cover your area with CDPD sevice.



Sorry Charo, I can only relay what they told me

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Posted by jpkovar on 11-01-2000 06:06 PM:

YadaYada has a page for confirming coverage by zip code at

http://www.yadayada.com/DESKTOP/main/coverage.asp

Based on examination of a few test zip codes (Columbia, MO and Austin, TX), it looks like YadaYada coverage allows roaming under both AT&T and Verizon CDPD networks.

Incidentally, Verizon is offering its own plans for PalmOS access - you provide the modem and software, get unlimited internet access on Verizon network, and pay a per-unit (1 kb?) usage fee on other CDPD provider network. The link is

http://www.verizonwireless.com/mobile_ip/index.html

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