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Posted by aquaboy on 04-02-2001 03:40 PM:

Being a true springboard module with flashable programs, I don't see any advantage to Matchbook or Innopocket. What do you think? NX drive looks comparable to Memplug for the most part. It doesn't have a jpeg viewer or some of the whistles, but it is hotswappable and comes in several colors.

Posted by kalahari on 04-02-2001 04:03 PM:

My initial impression was the same -- that it would mean the end of MatchBookDrive and Innopocket (as their products currently exist anyway).

I think that the software that one can use with these products is more important though -- if Kopsis's FlashAdapter software has a lot more functionality and integration with other products (e.g. JackBack) than the software that NXiST provides, I will stay with with my MatchBookDrive solution. I don't know if NXiST is using Kopsis's software or not and it'll be interesting to see a full review of their product once they start shipping (which they are scheduled to do later this month). The NXiST has 1MB Flash.

What would be most useful for me right now would be a CF adapter module that also has 16MB Flash...

Posted by dkessler on 04-02-2001 04:34 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by aquaboy
Being a true springboard module with flashable programs, I don't see any advantage to Matchbook or Innopocket. What do you think? NX drive looks comparable to Memplug for the most part. It doesn't have a jpeg viewer or some of the whistles, but it is hotswappable and comes in several colors.

Innopocket and Matchbook CF adapters are also hotswapable (though getting the CF card out of an Innopocket adapter is phycially more difficult). And if I'm not mistaken, the lastest Matchbook adapters are available in a variety of colors.

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Posted by yardie on 04-02-2001 05:55 PM:

Nx Drive Superior

The Nx Drive solutions is far more superior than Matchbook Drive's and InnoPocket's solution. The ball is in their court. They are going to have to Up the Ante. My next module will be a NX Drive.

Now I am wondering. Will the new software products that Kopsis is working on work with the NX Drive? After all, its is for the most part a compact flash card adapter like the others.

Posted by dkessler on 04-02-2001 07:32 PM:

Re: Nx Drive Superior

quote:
Originally posted by yardie
Now I am wondering. Will the new software products that Kopsis is working on work with the NX Drive? After all, its is for the most part a compact flash card adapter like the others.

Not likely. NXiST has not licensed the Kopsis CF driver software, so unless they reverse engineered and re-implemented the FlashAdapter API (not really a cost effective approach), new FlashAdapter applications will be compatible only with Innopocket, Matchbook, or home-built CF adapters.

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Posted by argent on 04-02-2001 07:43 PM:

You know, eventually all these module makers are going to have to get together and produce a standard API for file access, or implement Palm's API. Having to have multiple JPG viewers and book readers and backup software is just going to suck dirty swamp water through used oil filters.

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Posted by dkessler on 04-02-2001 08:42 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by argent
... is just going to suck dirty swamp water through used oil filters.

I hear that's good for an extra 5HP on some American cars

Seriously, I think that Palm is going to drive that standardization when they release their removable storage API. Developers aren't going to want to code to multiple APIs and even if all of us removable storage developers get together, there's no way we could get anywhere near the developer support that something blessed by Palm and used in every m50x series device will have.

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Posted by argent on 04-02-2001 08:56 PM:

So when ARE Palm going to release their removable storage API?

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Posted by BEN on 04-02-2001 11:02 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by argent
So when ARE Palm going to release their removable storage API?

IS

BEN

Posted by mint on 04-02-2001 11:36 PM:

Power consumption.

Just wonder how is the power consumption of CF compare to SD and SmartMedia. Since it would be okay to leave SM module on in regular use.

Since homemade CF adapter and MatchbookDrive has no power-controled logic. (wonder if NX Drive has it too) Leaving CF Module on in regular use would drain battery?

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Posted by critic on 04-03-2001 01:11 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by BEN

IS

BEN

Actually, either is correct.

"When ARE Palm" would represent Palm as a collective group, while "When IS Palm" would represent Palm as a company. Also, in England, "When ARE" is commonly used, even when "When IS" should be.

Posted by LMidnight on 04-03-2001 01:36 PM:

quote:
Actually, either is correct.

I don't think 'So when EITHER Palm going to release their removable storage API?' would be correct.

Just a little humor.

Posted by argent on 04-03-2001 02:55 PM:

So, when are we mere mortals going to see the 4.0 SDK and the new storage API?

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Posted by dkessler on 04-03-2001 05:02 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by argent
So, when are we mere mortals going to see the 4.0 SDK and the new storage API?

I wouldn't expect Palm to lift the non-disclosure restrictions on 4.0 until the m500 starts shipping. Your guess is as good as mine as to when that's going to actually happen.

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Posted by imabug on 04-03-2001 07:02 PM:

You know, aside from the onboard flash, I didn't really see any significant difference between the InnoPocket/Matchbook and the Nxist springboards. The flash lets you store the software for the device onboard instead of taking up Visor memory, but aside from that there didn't seem to be any major advantage that made the NxDrive any better than the other two. Did I miss something?

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Posted by Winchell on 04-03-2001 07:08 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by imabug
You know, aside from the onboard flash, I didn't really see any significant difference between the InnoPocket/Matchbook and the Nxist springboards. The flash lets you store the software for the device onboard instead of taking up Visor memory, but aside from that there didn't seem to be any major advantage that made the NxDrive any better than the other two. Did I miss something?

Well, somebody else pointed out that you are travelling, and are apart from one's base computer, you can just get by with the Nxist for backup.

Otherwise you need a backup springboard in order to install the compact flash software.
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Posted by Fat_Man on 04-03-2001 09:23 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by imabug
The flash lets you store the software for the device onboard instead of taking up Visor memory, but aside from that there didn't seem to be any major advantage that made the NxDrive any better than the other two. Did I miss something?

If you're using the module as a back-up, the NxDrive has an advantage because the back-up/filemover program is a part of the module. If you have to do a hard reset because of a fatal error, the NxDrive can restore your visor, but the others cannot because their back-up/filemover will be lost during the hard-reset.

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Posted by miradu on 04-03-2001 09:45 PM:

BUT if oyu have any kind of module that has user acceible flash memory on it (like the thinmodem etc..) you can but the drivers on that, and than install them with that springboard, and than reinstall the rest fo your stuff.

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Posted by Matthew Nichols on 04-03-2001 10:10 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by miradu2000
BUT if oyu have any kind of module that has user acceible flash memory on it (like the thinmodem etc..) you can but the drivers on that, and than install them with that springboard, and than reinstall the rest fo your stuff.

BUT I think people want an all in one module, and not have to carry around two wherever you go.

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Posted by dalamar70 on 04-03-2001 10:14 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by miradu2000
BUT if oyu have any kind of module that has user acceible flash memory on it (like the thinmodem etc..) you can but the drivers on that, and than install them with that springboard, and than reinstall the rest fo your stuff.

But if there's not much price difference between the CF Springboard module and a CF adapter (and "all other things being equal", like app compatibility), then why not go for the Springboard?

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