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Posted by ashmed on 06-18-2001 12:36 AM:

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Anybody know of a not-too-expensive digital video camera that's good. My parents just asked me to research one that they could buy (the old canon camcorder recently broke).

Also, is 500 lines considered good resolution? What about pixels and optical zoom? I don't like digital zoom either.

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Posted by Matthew Nichols on 06-18-2001 12:46 AM:

500 lines is what a normal television (non digital/HDTV) is capable of displaying, DVD is about 480 lines I believe.

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Posted by akur on 06-18-2001 01:20 AM:

What is your budget?
You can get Sony PC110 for $1300

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Posted by ashmed on 06-18-2001 01:22 AM:

They don't want to pay more than $800, but I think I might be able to convince them up to $900 if they really see the need.

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Posted by homer on 06-18-2001 04:24 AM:

Sony makes excellent digital camcorders, as does canon.

You can get a decent one starting at $600.

Optical zoom is the only important factor...digital zoom is fairly useless.

Between $600 and $1500 or so, the only main differences are in bells an whistles. From $1500, then you will be looking at better optics/lenses.

The main factors are size, and the extra functions.

You may also want to decide if you want to go with MiniDV or Digital8 tapes. The MiniDVs are smaller, but a bit more expensive than the Digital8s.

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Posted by ashmed on 06-18-2001 06:14 AM:

Besides size and price, what's the difference between digital8 and minidv?

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Posted by Yorick on 06-18-2001 08:18 AM:

For info on digital8 vs. MiniDV, go HERE and page down a screen or two.
Digital 8 is noted as a Sony exclusive product (though I've not verified that) which uses traditional 8mm tape.

changed phrasing, fixed typo

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Posted by namja on 06-25-2001 09:00 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Matthew Nichols
500 lines is what a normal television (non digital/HDTV) is capable of displaying ...

What do you mean "normal television"?

Approximately:
TV Signal = 280 lines
VHS, Beta, 8mm = 240 lines
SVHS, Hi8 = 400 lines
DVD = 500 lines


Posted by lennonhead on 06-25-2001 09:06 PM:

If you haven't gotten one already, a cheap good DV camcorder is the Canon ZR-10. The quality is great and I haven't had any problems with mine. The downside to getting a "cheap" camcorder is the lack of features. You can change the exposure, the shutter speed, and have manual focus, but it lacks other high end features. For family use (and a little DV movie making) it is a great camera. I got mine for $750 last August.

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Posted by homer on 06-25-2001 10:06 PM:

quote:
Besides size and price, what's the difference between digital8 and minidv?


Nothing as far as quality, really. A digital signal is a digital signal.

Digital 8 Is a sony thing, though they do license it to other companies. I think there may be a difference in recording time, but I'm not sure.

Unless you are really after a super-small camera, then I wouldn't put the tape format at the top of the priority list.

quote:
TV Signal = 280 lines


In the NTSC format, yes, but note that this is an interlaced signal. In otherwords, it scans 280 horizontal odd lines, and then 280 horizontal even lines. So that sort-of equals 560 total lines of resolution. Sort of.

Actually, an interlaced signal is REALLY an outdated method in todays digital world.

From what I understand, HDTV does NOT interlace, but I could be wrong.

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