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Posted by kyoong on 09-24-2000 04:43 PM:

Hello everyone

I just bought a Visor Deluxe and am interested in protecting the screen.

Anyone here know the difference of products that are offered at vsps.com and screenprotector.com? They seem to be the same to me since they use same patent.

Also anyone hear of a product called WriteMate. Can't seem to find out who makes them and where to purchase them online.

Regards..............


Posted by Usonian on 09-24-2000 04:52 PM:

If you're willing to put in a little bit of work, you can make them yourself! Just buy a yard of vinyl from your local OSH/Home Depot type store (Look in the window screen section) and cut a 2 3/8" X 3 1/8" piece, and apply carefully to the screen. My first attempt resulted in a few specks of lint getting under the vinyl, but I'm sure I'll have it down to a science with the next couple tries.

You also might want to put a small drop of water on the screen before applying the vinyl; it will help it to stick as you squeegee it on.

The best part is that the vinyl should only cost about $.99 for a 36" x 36" piece(or however wide the roll is - I'm not even sure) - enough to last you for several years, as opposed to $1.50 (VSPS), or $2.00+ (WriteRights) for one.

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Posted by homer on 09-24-2000 06:23 PM:

kyoong:

Do a quick search on Screen protectors...this topic has already been beaten to death...

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Posted by kyoong on 09-24-2000 11:43 PM:

Yes lotsa of threads on various forums regarding screen protectors. Some are quite colorful too

However i just want to know if there is a diff in the prodcut offered by vsps.com and screenprotector.com. Reason is that both sites seem to offer the same product.

Another reason is that i am overseas, vsps.com is only charging US5.00 for overseas shipements while screenprotector.com charges US18.00. Why the BIG diff in the shipping rate?

Regards..............


Posted by parb33 on 09-25-2000 02:19 AM:

Both sites are probably run by good old Bill Warman, and I'd strongly discourage you from buying from either one. Don't waste your time trying to find a method to Billy-Boy's madness; he's done things a lot stranger than charging different shipping prices for identical products on different web sites of his. For more info on this topic, go to http://www.girlandgeek.com/boycott/Index.htm, or search for "Screen Protectors" on Visorcentral.

Good alternatives include Write Rights, which are available from http://www.conceptkitchen.com and are excellent, albeit overpriced, and Easy Peel film, which can be found @ http://www.easypeel.com.

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Posted by MillsapsPE on 09-25-2000 03:19 AM:

Question

quote:
Originally posted by parb33
Both sites are probably run by good old Bill Warman, and I'd strongly discourage you from buying from either one. Don't waste your time trying to find a method to Billy-Boy's madness; he's done things a lot stranger than charging different shipping prices for identical products on different web sites of his. For more info on this topic, go to http://www.girlandgeek.com/boycott/Index.htm, or search for "Screen Protectors" on Visorcentral.

Good alternatives include Write Rights, which are available from http://www.conceptkitchen.com and are excellent, albeit overpriced, and Easy Peel film, which can be found @ http://www.easypeel.com.



A review of the boycott web site indicates that easy peel is on the boycott list. Whasup with that?

Doug


Posted by homer on 09-25-2000 05:51 AM:

I can't speak on anyone's behalf, but my understanding is that Warman just licenses his patent...not specific technology. Each licensee uses their own plastics and adhesive and therefore, they most likely are different products (Warman, please correct me if I am wrong). Basically, if you stick adhesive on clear plastic, you are technically infringing on his patent.

Warman told Easy Peel that they were infringing on his patent. Easy Peel, being a small company could either comply or seek legal council. They chose to adhere to Warman's patent. Whether you boycott them or not is a personal decision.

Again, all this is said based on what I've read...don't hold me to it.




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Posted by kyoong on 09-25-2000 07:54 AM:

Thanks for the replies guys.

I think i rather go for screen protector that uses static to cling the Visor screen. Adhesive on plastic doesn't appeal to me.

BTW anyone know if the Visor screen size is the same as the Palm III?

Regards.....................


Posted by parb33 on 09-26-2000 12:22 AM:

Don't know about a Palm III's, but the Visor's screen is 6x6 cm, and the grafitti area is 2x6 cm, so the entire thing is 8x6.

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Posted by markr13 on 09-26-2000 01:05 AM:

Talking Screen Protector Options

quote:
Originally posted by kyoong
Thanks for the replies guys.

I think i rather go for screen protector that uses static to cling the Visor screen. Adhesive on plastic doesn't appeal to me.

BTW anyone know if the Visor screen size is the same as the Palm III?

Regards.....................



There is also a screen protector that uses no adhesive that is held by the case edges -> NuShield. In answer to your other question, the Visor screen is slightly different in size than the Palm III.

http://www.NuShield.net


Posted by kyoong on 09-26-2000 04:17 AM:

Got my hands on a WriteRight. Friend of mine pass one piece for me to try out.

Blurs the screen a bit but i suppose that means it's anti glare. I hear that WriteRight has a clear version which is 98026 while the anti glare version is 98024. Numbers were given to me by the local distributer so not sure it is the same in other countries.

Installing it wasn't hard. Just made sure that the screen was clean first by using anti static cleaner (the same kind to clean CDs). Took me a while to align the sheet as i didn't remove the entire sheet but just the bottom part and peeled it as i when along. Similar style to applying a band aid. Used my credit card as a squeegee to make sure there wasn't any bubbles.

Result: Pretty good for my first try. No bubbles and the screen was aligned nicely. Had a bit of lines but once the unit was powered up you can't really see it. Applied a bit anti static cleaner on the Writeright because people complain the it attracts dust. So far so good.

Next screen protector i am going to try will be Writemate. From the info i have it is clear and doesn't attract dust like Writeright. It is also more expensive and if i want to go for a budget i might just make my own screen protector once i get the right materials.

Regards...................


Posted by Inventorb on 09-28-2000 06:38 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by homer
I can't speak on anyone's behalf, but my understanding is that Warman just licenses his patent...not specific technology. Each licensee uses their own plastics and adhesive and therefore, they most likely are different products (Warman, please correct me if I am wrong).

Basically, if you stick adhesive on clear plastic, you are technically infringing on his patent.

Warman told Easy Peel that they were infringing on his patent. Easy Peel, being a small company could either comply or seek legal council. They chose to adhere to Warman's patent. Whether you boycott them or not is a personal decision.

Again, all this is said based on what I've read...don't hold me to it.









Each licensee uses their own plastics and adhesive and therefore, they most likely are different products (Warman, please correct me if I am wrong).

Inventor
You are correct. I can only advise a client on a type of material. I cannot order them on which product to use.
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Basically, if you stick adhesive on clear plastic, you are technically infringing on his patent.


Inventor
You are wrong. You need to add an Instrument to the answer.
Also your statement regarding adhesive is wrong. They can be naturally adhered.

Thank You
Inventor

[Edited by Inventorb on 09-28-2000 at 02:47 PM]

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Posted by MelHerd on 09-29-2000 01:45 AM:

I use Writerites - have the current one on for 4 months with no degradation of the protector. It does cut down on glare but does degrade screen image. Like the surface for graffiti. Has any one used the clear Writerites for an extended period of time?

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Posted by homer on 09-29-2000 05:23 AM:

Sort of along the same line as Mel's questions...has anyone used both the clear Writerights and the regular ones and compared them?

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Posted by John Nowak on 09-29-2000 04:31 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by homer
Sort of along the same line as Mel's questions...has anyone used both the clear Writerights and the regular ones and compared them?




I have. The anti-glare Writeright has a rough surface which I found rather nice to write on, but it blurred the screen a bit too much for me, so I cut off a strip to use on the Graffiti area. The clear Writerights blur the screen less, but don't feel quite as good to write on.

The clear Writerights distort the screen slightly, and I'm going to try the trick someone else mentioned of rubbing off the thin wax layer before placing the Writeright on the screen for my replacement.

Anyway, this particular Writeright has been on my Visor for a few months, and the only reason I'm going to replace it is to try to see if I can cut down some on the blur.

Now, a lot of people hate writing on the anti-glare Writerights. It seems to be very much a matter of personal choice, and it's a crying shame you can't just get one or two samples in an envelope from someone to try them out. Maybe it would be possible for people trying to settle on a make to buy a pack of each type and mail one another samples.


Posted by Gameboy70 on 09-29-2000 04:42 PM:

Lightbulb

Here is the search results page that lists the 25 threads on screen protectors. As we seem to be averaging about two new threads on this topic per month, I recommend posting this link in any further screen protector threads, closing them, a letting further posts continue on the existing screen protector threads.


Posted by John Nowak on 09-29-2000 09:53 PM:

It's probably slightly off topic but I happened to notice that Inventorb posted something here which was deleted. Out of curiosity, was it removed by the staff or did he remove it himself?


Posted by Inventorb on 09-29-2000 11:05 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by John Nowak
It's probably slightly off topic but I happened to notice that Inventorb posted something here which was deleted. Out of curiosity, was it removed by the staff or did he remove it himself?


STAFF

Thank You
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Posted by BizEchilD on 10-09-2000 09:11 PM:

Bill:

Think of the money you're missing not suing school merchandising. I have a school logo on my back inner windshield and it uses the same principles.

Writerights are a bit overpriced, but hopefully they're not paying this renob for his "patent" and if that is the case, I would surely recommend them. They do work well.


Posted by tchun on 03-02-2001 08:30 AM:

Anyone have AN extra WriteMate they wanna trade for a WriteRight? I want to see what the difference is.
Also i have some samples of writeright for $3 shipped. Please email me [email protected] if you are interested. Thanks.


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