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Posted by saturngirl on 03-22-2001 08:50 PM:

Hi,

I just wanted to get some opinions about which sort of memory module I should buy. I'm a brand-new visor user; I just bought a visor deluxe. I'm travelling to Russia in a few weeks, and I'll be there for 4 months, probably without the option to hot-sync. So I thought that it would be a really good idea to buy some extra memory. Now the question is: which type? I was considering buying the mem-plug, but from what I understand, you can't run programs off of it. Is it a big inconvenience then to copy them onto the Visor?

Any feedback you might have is GREATLY appreciated!

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Posted by Soul Raven on 03-22-2001 10:18 PM:

Well, since my MemPlug is still back-ordered (Hey, at least I'm not bitter), I can't answer any questions about that. If you are going to be unable to Hotsync for a while, I would say that a Backup Module would be a good first consideration for you. $40 goes a long way towards peace of mind where your data in concerned. I know that the MemPlug comes with a Backup app, but I would read some of the experiences people on this board have had with them. I have had my Backup Springboard since Nov 1999 and I have had no problems whatsoever, even though I use it at least once a week, sometimes much more.

Aside from that, I have the 8MB Flash Springboard from Handspring, and it works great. As long as you remember you can't put PDBs that need to be updated there, you are fine. Mine is full of programs and e-books. I can only imagine the the 16MB module is more of the same.

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Posted by waynorth on 03-22-2001 10:27 PM:

MemPlug

I have a MemPlug, a backup module and an 8 mg module. I like the Memplug the best for backup and storage. I agree with Soul Raven though that backing up your data is the key thing anytime you are away from hotsync. If you travel and have the ability to take the backup module out and store it someplace, that would also be optimal just in case. Anyway good luck, sounds like a great trip.

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Posted by saturngirl on 03-22-2001 11:22 PM:

Hmm...

Thanks for taking the time to respond to my question. Since I am brand new to the Visor, I don't know a lot about the springboard modules. So my question is this: Can't I just by the 16MB springboard and move my data into that, or are they two completely different things? (I am so overwhelmed by all of the different products available!)

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Posted by kpochert on 03-23-2001 12:49 AM:

Backup, backup, backup...

I have the earlier Handspring Backup Springboard and well as my new MemPlug with a new 64Meg. SmartMedia from NewEgg.com. Backup with both of them! I have well over 1000 addresses, contacts, and notes that I just would not like to loose. Especially not being able to hotsync to my work as well as my home computer.

A valuable combination - the Visor Deluxe and a MemPlug!

Enjoy,

Kurt

Posted by kpochert on 03-23-2001 12:55 AM:

I forgot - A Targus Stowaway too!

In addition to the previous post a Targus Stowaway keyboard for the Visor Deluxe is indispensable when you don't have the privilege to have a good laptop computer with you all the time.

Yo,

Kurt

Posted by Matthew Nichols on 03-23-2001 01:49 AM:

Come one! Come all! Because I have too much free time on my hands I've built a table displaying all the different memory options for users.

Check out the:
Kyoutendouchi Memory Matrix

I'm just hoping it can help some people (Don't hit your head on Tripod's stupid pop-up banner). If you have any changes I should make or suggestions be sure to tell me.

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Posted by Soul Raven on 03-23-2001 01:56 AM:

The problem with having the 16MB Flash module, and just making a copy of internal memory there is that, well, you would have two copies of everything. You would leave the module in, and the Visor would "see" both programs.

Also, I don't know (now I'll have to check) if you can copy your address book and appointments to the Flash module. That's the benefit of the Backup module: it copies EVERYTHING in internal memory with one click. If you can afford both a Backup module and Flash, it's really worth it to get both.

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Posted by gadgetguru on 03-23-2001 05:36 AM:

I would suggest the backup module and the 16M Hagiwara module. This is the setup I use and love it. You don't have to worry about moving apps back and forth. You will need to keep any databases that get updated on the internal memory such as documents, pictures etc. I have over 2M available on my Prism and almost 7M on the module. The backup module can be a life saver.

Rick

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Posted by Matthew Nichols on 03-23-2001 06:11 AM:

If you got a 16mb module you could probably get by with JackBack.

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Posted by bkbk on 03-23-2001 11:30 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Matthew Nichols
Come one! Come all! Because I have too much free time on my hands I've built a table displaying all the different memory options for users.
Check out the:
Kyoutendouchi Memory Matrix
I'm just hoping it can help some people (Don't hit your head on Tripod's stupid pop-up banner). If you have any changes I should make or suggestions be sure to tell me.

Killer diller.
You have just the right amount of free time on my hands, if you ask me. It's people like you that make the 'Net the awesome resource it is.

As for the original princess' query:
An important key to this is if you have any elec. products (stand-alone MP3 player, digital camera, etc.) that ALSO use some kind of memory media -- CF, SM, etc. (Note these are MUCH cheaper than Handspring's SB modules.)

Like the key to a lot of things in life (including driving -- always look at the road about a block ahead) is to see into the future as best you're able.
MIGHT you get an elec. product that can share your mem. card in the next year or two? Go w/that storage, then.

Finally, since Russia has less resources, generally, you may need to factor this in in some way. (Say, if by chance you crack a CF card.)

Oh, 1 more thing -- I think CF cards use the most power among the mem. card options. So, say, if you CAN go SM, I would.

Good luck -- don't get kidnapped!

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Posted by saturngirl on 04-15-2001 11:55 PM:

Ok, Revisiting this idea...!

Okay, I took your advice, and I bought (from discussion board!) a used backup module and a stowaway keyboard. So, here's my new question: Can I store any EDITABLE files (text documents) in one of these options and modify it without copying it to the Visor's RAM?

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Posted by kalahari on 04-16-2001 01:09 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Matthew Nichols
...Check out the:
Kyoutendouchi Memory Matrix

That's a useful matrix that you've created there.

Just wanted to let you know of the following changes:
1. Tony's (www.palmpilotupgrade.com) price for the 16MB upgrade is now $129
2. STNE (www.stnecorp.com) does the same 16MB upgrade for $119.95
3. The MatchBook Drive is now $25

Methinks I know way too much about all these prices...

Posted by MarkEagle on 04-16-2001 01:26 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by kalahari
3. The MatchBook Drive is now $25

At the bottom of the table is this disclaimer: Matchbook drive listed is original first-generation product.

Very nice work, Matt.

One suggestion... how about putting the relevant links in the table for us?

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Posted by Matthew Nichols on 04-16-2001 02:54 AM:

Thanks Mark & Kalahari, I've updated the table and added links to what I thought were the most relevent pages (A couple just go to the PalmGear order page for the product).

The table is still up at the same place .

If anyone else has any suggestions be sure to post'm here or send them to me, I'm just trying to help other people out. Eventually when I have free time I'll buy a real domain and make kyoutenouchi a real site, until then we'll both have to put up with the banner.

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Posted by bookrats on 04-16-2001 05:05 PM:

Re: Ok, Revisiting this idea...!

quote:
Originally posted by saturngirl
Okay, I took your advice, and I bought (from discussion board!) a used backup module and a stowaway keyboard. So, here's my new question: Can I store any EDITABLE files (text documents) in one of these options and modify it without copying it to the Visor's RAM?

If you mean, can you edit documents in the Backup module you just bought, no. It's basically makes a single "snapshot" backup of your Visor, and then, when you perform restore, restores your Visor to the state you had it in when you did a backup.

The backup module's opinion (IMO) is that it's extremely simple to use -- thus making it difficult to shoot yourself in the foot. (A maneuver I am particularly prone to.

)

If you're asking if any of the storage devices listed in Matt's way-excellent chart allow you to edit stored documents directly in the storage device's memory (without loading them into Visor memory first), I believe the answer is No, with the exception of the two RAM options at the end of the chart.

However, could someone more knowledgable than me confirm/deny this statement?

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Posted by Azdeadwood on 04-16-2001 05:39 PM:

You are right. The answer is no, except for the last two.

If you don't want to void your warrenty I would suggest my combination. I have the same combination as the "Gadgetguru":
Backup Module
16M Hagiwara Module.

I have almost all of my program files on the 16MB Module, and just leave the editable ones on the Visor itself. This gives me 6MB free on my Prism and 9 Free on my Module. By using the backup, I've even survived having to do a hard reset!

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Posted by saturngirl on 04-16-2001 07:10 PM:

Shoot!

Well, that's a bummer...
I guess I can just archive documents on the Hagiwara module then... I was thinking that if I *can* sync my visor, I could write HTML on it and then transfer that to a computer. (I'm going to keep a travel web site.) I'll just have to see...

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