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Posted by nitehawk on 12-19-2000 04:31 AM:

Lightbulb

Don't you wish you had a way to hear your palm alarms no matter where your palm PDA was?("Visor" brand of course)

Like when you leave it in your coat or purse or on the counter at home, etc.

Well here's an idea that if I had the time and more importantly the palm programming language experience that could really make this possible.

How about a program that extracts the datebook events and any other upcomming alarm events and beams them to a TIMEX Data Link watch! Then when your Visor is not nearby or even when it is in your case on your belt (where mine usually is and I still can't hear the alarms), you would then hear the alarm from your watch and text to describe the alarm.

I have some definite Ideas as to how to make this workable... please E-mail me if you have the time and knowledge. P.S. I know of several web sites that break down the protocol used to talk to the watch.

You could quickly update your watch any time you create a calendar event with an alarm or say on a weekly basis and never miss another alarm.

Comments? Ideas? Suggestions?


Posted by Gameboy70 on 12-19-2000 07:22 AM:

You could probably save a step by using Casio's PC Unite watch, which synchs with PalmOS and (surprise!) Casseopia PDAs.


Posted by nitehawk on 12-19-2000 05:26 PM:

Question

Do you have this "pc unite" watch?
Does it allow you to transfer alarms to the watch?
Please elaborate on its capabilities...

I still am interested in the Timex data link option...

It is cheaper, approx $45 at walmart for iron man data link. (there are other datalink models also)

Thanks

Anyone else have comments or suggestions or ideas on how not to miss PDA alarms?


Posted by Gameboy70 on 12-20-2000 04:42 AM:

I don't have the watch myself, but VC member John Nowak purchased the watch and reviewed it pretty thoroughly in the "Casio digital watch with IR port" thread. The link in my first post is Casio's page on the PC Unite, which gives all the specs. I would assume that it does allow you to transfer alarms to the watch, but I can't say that from personal experience.


Posted by nitehawk on 12-20-2000 11:25 PM:

If anyone is interested here is one web site containing many links to information about the protocol for the Timex DataLink watches...

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Garage/7926/

Anyone else out there have this same concern/desire to make palm alarms more reliable?

Even the ladies could make the smaller datalink watch into a "necklace" (worn under the clothing if desired) and then could still hear and respond to alarms when their PDA is in their purse (havent seen too many ladies wearing their PDA on their belt!


Posted by DaveTheSane on 12-21-2000 11:11 PM:

Unhappy hmmmmm

I actually own both a Visor and a Datalink watch, and I don't think it's viable to beam information from the Visor to the watch for the following reason.

The program used to move information to the watch doesn't discriminate. It beams every address, phone number, and appointment, to the watch every single time you want to make a change. Which is fine, it only takes a minute or two to do this. But beaming stuff from the Visor? If you wanted to keep your phone number list in your watch (which I do, I always have my watch on me, I don't always carry my Visor) The Visor would have to connect to your address book, and to do list, and appointments and convert them (shorten them, the datalink lines are a lot shorter) in order to follow the protocols and "completely" transmit all information to the watch every single time. If you were to "only" transmit the alarms, presumably from your calendar, I think that the datalink would loose all other info, such as phone numbers and your to do list.

Just my two cents worth

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Posted by nitehawk on 12-22-2000 04:12 AM:

Thanks for your insight on the timex datalink.

Wouldn't it be possible to have an app that extracted the first 8 or 16 characters of the alarm desc. and beam the alarms over to the watch?

As I look at the timex protocol as described in some of the links in the above URL link, I am sure that any competent programmer could make this possible with check boxes for beaming to-do's and phone #'s.

What I really want is to have a better alarm system, I am not so concerned by todo's and phone #'s.

Let's hear from you ladies... what do you do when your PDA is in your purse and an alarm goes off? Miss it?


Posted by Traveliter on 01-03-2001 07:11 PM:

Unhappy

nitehawk asked:
"Let's hear from you ladies... what do you do when your PDA is in your purse and an alarm goes off? Miss it?"

Yes, all the time. What's worse, I've talked to the folks at RhinoSkin about providing small D-rings on their RhinoPak cases so women could wear the cases like small "purses" across their chest and slung low, and the feedback I got at the time was that they weren't really going in that direction. ("Hello! How hard is it to add two tiny D-rings on your RhinoPak and charge extra for a thin shoulder strap???").

Since I maintain a Web site on how to pack for travel, I evaluate a LOT of bags (on my own dime, BTW)... and something like that would go a long way to help provide carrying cases for women. I have already gone through five different cases for my Visor because I'm still looking for one I can use and keep on a long-term basis. You can find similar things for cell phones (example: the Klisa, at http://www.klisa.com) but none for PDAs.


Posted by Visor Guy2 on 01-04-2001 12:03 AM:

I have em'

I have one of the PC Unite Watches and it works great, I can beam my adresses, memos, todos, and my appointments to my watch and never miss a thing. (Yes it does have an alarm) It's got nice buttons on the face that go to schedule and adresses in an instant which makes getting info really quick & Easy. It's got some other things like time zones and a stopwatch. all in all it's great and I'd reccommend it for any visor (Or Palm) user. My only complaint though is the Backlight doesn't stay on long enough, so I can't use it as a flashlight . Oh, BTW I have also had the Timex Data Link and It is pretty good too but you need to insert information manually with their computer program, you can't just, 'beam it over' like with the PC Unite. Hope This Helps.


Posted by John Nowak on 01-05-2001 02:05 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by nitehawk
How about a program that extracts the datebook events and any other upcomming alarm events and beams them to a TIMEX Data Link watch!


Now that I think of it, I'm not sure this is possible -- the TIMEX DataLink has a cell which responds to a flashing VGA screen. The Visor has an IR transmitter. Would a Timex see the IR signal?


Posted by nitehawk on 01-05-2001 03:31 PM:

True, it does responde to a "flashing vga screen" but for laptop computers there is an LED addon module that does the communication... from my research I'm pretty sure that it will also see an IR LED.


Posted by hkyslif on 01-06-2001 03:36 PM:

Aside from the watch ideas, I've found it helpful to have different alarm sounds. I picked up GeekSounds from http://www.freewarepalm.com. It has lots of alarms and most of them are unique and much longer in duration than the default alarms. I'm much more likely to hear the Battlestar Gallactica themesong than the beep-beep of the regular alarm. As for the watch ideas, I have a Datalink and if it's really that important, I'll just manually set a new alarm. I just don't see a need to sync my Visor with my watch. Just my $.02.

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Posted by wilderf on 02-19-2001 03:32 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by nitehawk
True, it does responde to a "flashing vga screen" but for laptop computers there is an LED addon module that does the communication... from my research I'm pretty sure that it will also see an IR LED.


Here is a link to that device.

http://www.timex.com/bin/detail.tmx?item=764:69950

It's called the "Notebook Adapter". It has a 9 pin serial connector and a little "black box" with a red led on it. Maybe we could build somethink like this that recieved infra red on one side and outputs the signal to the watch on the other side.


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