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Posted by argent on 05-30-2002 12:19 AM:

Re: Re: Cyberpunk!

quote:
Originally posted by dampeoples
Where did they lie?

They lied by omission. They didn't warn us that the secret fractal signals from teh Treo would build a network of nanotech tubules in our brains, tubules that would house the software agents from the distant future that would, eventually, recreate the evil cyber-entity that will only be known as... no... I must reveal the truth... stop... AUGH!

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Posted by dampeoples on 05-30-2002 12:21 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Cyberpunk!

quote:
Originally posted by argent
They lied by omission.

Then i'm guilty as well.

Posted by ragamuffinn on 05-30-2002 12:33 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by dampeoples

I am getting at:
The Visor's are no more, no amount of pleading will bring them back AND if the Treo is not for you, then fine. Not you specifically, but why do people insist on writing smack about something they do not care for? Leave it alone. Buy a Handera or something, hell, even get a Sony or a Palm if they do it for you.

Ok. Thank you for clarifying. I understand that you weren't directing your comments at me specifically. I'm not against the Treo (despite what my avatar may suggest....well, maybe the 90). However, I'm sure you can understand the frustration. Hawkin's himself promoted the springboard as a standard that Handspring would not abandon for a long time. If he didn't state this explicitly, then very strongly implicitly. Who remembers when he said that the springboard was engineered to stave off obsolescence for--oh, how many years did he say? I want to say eight or ten. That was a big selling point if I recall. 'Yes it's proprietary, but as a standard it's engineered to last' (paraphrase). Now obviously we could not expect the springboard to be marketable for ten years, but who expected Visor development to be curtailed so soon?

Posted by argent on 05-30-2002 12:34 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Cyberpunk!

quote:
Originally posted by dampeoples
Then i'm guilty as well.

You're from the future? Are you one of the good future cyber alien nanotech software aliens or one of the evil future cyber nanotech software aliens? If you're one of the good ones... prove it! Make my computer do something really cool and psychedelic with texture maps and special effects! If you're one of the evil ones... never mind, I'll just be moving along now, all hail the ... whatever it is. Yeh.

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Posted by bronzefury on 05-30-2002 12:46 AM:

i give up on HandSpring

glad to hear i'm not the only one peeved by handspring. like many of you, i own a visor, (a visor pro as a matter of fact) with a collection of springboards. all works fine for me and i can't possibly think of buying fickle sony products or the step-into-the-dark-ages treo in the future.

one day my pro will die just because it is expected that the lithium ion battery will finally **weep**weep** not be able to hold its charge.

does anyone have any ideas how i could keep my visor pro but be able to replace the battery?

thanks,

Posted by dampeoples on 05-30-2002 01:16 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ragamuffinn
Hawkin's himself promoted the springboard as a standard that Handspring would not abandon for a long time. If he didn't state this explicitly, then very strongly implicitly. Who remembers when he said that the springboard was engineered to stave off obsolescence for--oh, how many years did he say? I want to say eight or ten. That was a big selling point if I recall. 'Yes it's proprietary, but as a standard it's engineered to last' (paraphrase). Now obviously we could not expect the springboard to be marketable for ten years, but who expected Visor development to be curtailed so soon?

Well, it did last a while, this is consumer electronics

Posted by dampeoples on 05-30-2002 01:17 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Cyberpunk!

quote:
Originally posted by argent
You're from the future? Are you one of the good future cyber alien nanotech software aliens or one of the evil future cyber nanotech software aliens? If you're one of the good ones... prove it! Make my computer do something really cool and psychedelic with texture maps and special effects! If you're one of the evil ones... never mind, I'll just be moving along now, all hail the ... whatever it is. Yeh.

The future. My computer makes a noise and smiles when i turn it on, but in order for me to make yours do that, i need a $1500 advance.

Posted by argent on 05-30-2002 01:28 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Cyberpunk!

quote:
Originally posted by dampeoples
The future. My computer makes a noise and smiles when i turn it on, but in order for me to make yours do that, i need a $1500 advance.

No problem. Here's a penny. Put it in the bank and it'll be worth $1500 by the time you get back to the future.

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Posted by ragamuffinn on 05-30-2002 01:37 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Cyberpunk!

quote:
Originally posted by dampeoples

The future. My computer makes a noise and smiles when i turn it on, but in order for me to make yours do that, i need a $1500 advance.

You have the new iSmack, don't you?

(just joke..i'm not talking smack.)

Anyway, I beg to differ with your determination that handhelds fall into consumer electronics. That designation connotes more leisure or recreational rather than critical or productive application. We need a new designation...

Regardless, with consumer electronics (phongraph, 8-track, cassettes, CDs, VHS, LD, DVD, etc.) we see a considerable lifespan of each of those media in stark contrast to the springboard. Imagine if CDs were just introduced and you bought them for three years straight (oh, and did I mention that each CD was $50-100?), then Sony and all of the other CD player manufacturers started ramping down the production of CD players and started promoting a new standard. That's what the consumer electronics space would look like if it looked like the life of the springboard.

Posted by dampeoples on 05-30-2002 02:13 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Cyberpunk!

quote:
Originally posted by ragamuffinn
You have the new iSmack, don't you? (just joke..i'm not talking smack.)

Anyway, I beg to differ with your determination that handhelds fall into consumer electronics. That designation connotes more leisure or recreational rather than critical or productive application. We need a new designation...

Regardless, with consumer electronics (phongraph, 8-track, cassettes, CDs, VHS, LD, DVD, etc.) we see a considerable lifespan of each of those media in stark contrast to the springboard. Imagine if CDs were just introduced and you bought them for three years straight (oh, and did I mention that each CD was $50-100?), then Sony and all of the other CD player manufacturers started ramping down the production of CD players and started promoting a new standard. That's what the consumer electronics space would look like if it looked like the life of the springboard.

I wish I had the new lamp, but I played conservative and went with the old to save money...

I see your point on the SB, but it just didn't work. I like mine and they were first to the market with such a diverse offering, it just seems like not that many people were interested enough to buy much more than memory.

Posted by Toby on 05-30-2002 02:01 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Hoser_back_home
would anybody like to make a slim CF card module for the edge connector for me? If i could use a CF or SD card on my edge, life would be complete! [...]

One problem with that. Unless they've suddenly added them, ATL doesn't sell Edge connectors or plastics (they only sell the hotsync connectors last I checked). If they did, I'd have tried it by now. OTOH, if I get a boatload of free time any time soon (not bloody likely), I might buy an extra SB adapter to experiment with.

Posted by Toby on 05-30-2002 02:04 PM:

Re: i give up on HandSpring

quote:
Originally posted by bronzefury
[...] does anyone have any ideas how i could keep my visor pro but be able to replace the battery? [...]

Keep an eye on gethightech.com's website?

Posted by HindeR on 05-30-2002 02:36 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Cyberpunk!

quote:
Originally posted by argent
No problem. Here's a penny. Put it in the bank and it'll be worth $1500 by the time you get back to the future.

Good Gracious, you people make me laugh, and just when I thought it would start getting ugly. Thanks all!

Posted by dampeoples on 05-30-2002 03:33 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Cyberpunk!

quote:
Originally posted by argent
No problem. Here's a penny. Put it in the bank and it'll be worth $1500 by the time you get back to the future.

One problem. I cannot go backwards from this date, only forwards in time. The current state of the economy prevents me from placing any money into a bank, so I'll hold onto your penny for you, and invest wisely.

Posted by dampeoples on 05-30-2002 03:33 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Cyberpunk!

quote:
Originally posted by HindeR

Good Gracious, you people make me laugh, and just when I thought it would start getting ugly. Thanks all!

I don't think it would have started getting ugly.

Posted by Hoser_back_home on 05-31-2002 04:23 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Toby
One problem with that. Unless they've suddenly added them, ATL doesn't sell Edge connectors or plastics (they only sell the hotsync connectors last I checked). If they did, I'd have tried it by now. OTOH, if I get a boatload of free time any time soon (not bloody likely), I might buy an extra SB adapter to experiment with.

keep me posted!

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Posted by ByinHi on 06-04-2002 09:00 AM:

Re: Cyberpunk!

quote:
Originally posted by argent
Because we must warn the world that the father of Lies has corrupted Handspring. Carefully designed fractal symbols from a time-travelling nanotechnological nightmare have been beaming themselves into all our brains from our Treos. Behind Hawkins' movie-star visage lives an ancient evil that has returned from the far future to lay the seed of its own growth in our minds and computers. This worm in the core of the computer industry has made its move at last, wriggling from its horrid hole to set in motion the events that will inevitably, long after the sun has grown cold, lead to its rebirth in the horrid galactic wars of the 14th Aeon.

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