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Posted by Oliver99 on 04-24-2001 03:46 PM:

FYI - It appears that you can use SM in a CF Matchbookdrive.

"Pretec Electronics makes a CF to SM adapter which will work with the MatchBookDrive adapter, if someone wants an SM solution."

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Posted by aquaboy on 04-24-2001 05:13 PM:

quote:
FYI - It appears that you can use SM in a CF Matchbookdrive.

make sure that you have a cf type II adapter. matchbook has a casing that accomodates type II. as far as i know, pretec doesn't make a cf I adapter for smartmedia.

Posted by Oliver99 on 04-24-2001 05:31 PM:

It is a little difficult to find info on the Pretec adapter. (I forgot to mention that you would have to get the Matchbookdrive that accepts Type II CF cards - Good Catch!)

http://www.pretec.com/index2/produc...ompactSSFDC.htm

Type II CF CompactSSFDC Plus
Part Number: EB4SMCFL32

Pretec's CompactSSFDC can allow you to transport SmartMedia between digital systems including PDAs, HPCs, digital cameras, digital picture frame, digital MP3 players, Auto PC, audio recorders, consumer photo printers, smart phones, medical monitors, pagers and many more. Pretec CompactSSFDC is a SmartMedia to CompactFlash adapter in CF Type II form factor, allowing you to transport data files or digital images between two most popular storage media types � SmartMedia and CompactFlash. Typical applications can be found in digital systems and Internet appliances including Pocket PC, PDA, digital cameras, photo printers, digital picture frames, voice recorders, smart phones, and many more.

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Posted by septimus on 04-24-2001 05:33 PM:

Looks like it would stick out quite a bit... no good... and for $40, you might as well go get the memplug...

I wonder if, using that adapter, you could read SD cards directly....

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Posted by Oliver99 on 04-24-2001 05:43 PM:

There is another problem. I just spotted info that seems to indicate that the Pretec adapter is limited to SM of no greater than 32mb.

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Posted by aquaboy on 04-24-2001 05:46 PM:

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I wonder if, using that adapter, you could read SD cards directly....

no. you would still have the limitations of the software. you're right though. you might as well get a memplug. as long as you have to switch media, you might as well switch springboards.

as for whether to get a memplug. since i've ordered mine, i'll take it. i have both sm and cf i can use. if they change the backorder date again, forget it. fafilemover should have most of the same functionality (with some plugins, i believe) in the not to distant future. the only difference is that it still won't be a true springboard.

Posted by enhanceyourlife on 04-24-2001 06:12 PM:

FYI guys, Amazon has the memplug on "preorder". Their customer service is head and heels over anyone else..

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Posted by headgamer on 04-24-2001 09:26 PM:

True, Amazon has them listed. However, if you call them, they can give you NO information on when they expect to receive them. I am not going to cancel my order with Palmgear and order from Amazon until I see they have them in stock. I'd hate to lose my place in the que at Palmgear for one.... LOL.

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Posted by dvIceT on 04-24-2001 10:33 PM:

CF/SM adapter not a sure thing

quote:
Originally posted by Oliver99
FYI - It appears that you can use SM in a CF Matchbookdrive.

"Pretec Electronics makes a CF to SM adapter which will work with the MatchBookDrive adapter, if someone wants an SM solution."

From briefly scanning through the Flashadapter Yahoo/eGroup, it sounds like the CF/SM adapter doesn't work consistently for everybody. There was an intriguing report of successful use of a MicroDrive for brief file transfers. It sounds like CF adapter development is picking up: no more silly subdirectory limitations, gMedia support for CF adapters coming, possible jpeg viewer. If only they would develop a true Springboard, the superior file transfer speeds would put it on par with, if not ahead of the MemPlug, which is nice but slow.

Posted by PiDeveloper on 04-25-2001 02:55 AM:

Re: date pushed back again

quote:
Originally posted by aquaboy
palmgear has changed the date yet again.

Hi all,

Just would like to let all of you know that the new shippment of Memplug is on its way to PalmGear now.
Hopefully they would arrived on or before 26 of Apr.

Best Regards,
PiDeveloper

Posted by Anomaly on 04-25-2001 03:28 AM:

In follow up to the post from PIDeveloper above (I love companies that frequent discussions boards), I e-mailed them this morning asking about PalmGear and Amazon. I got this response (I also love companies that respond in less than 24 hours):

"1) Yes, palmGear is our current US online distributor. In fact, we received the purchase order from palmGear very late (few days ago). We shipped our products to palmGear yesterday morning.
2) We have not received any purchase order from amazon.com yet."

So I'm headed to PalmGear to order.

Posted by headgamer on 04-25-2001 04:44 AM:

Re: Re: date pushed back again

quote:
Originally posted by PiDeveloper

Hi all,

Just would like to let all of you know that the new shippment of Memplug is on its way to PalmGear now.
Hopefully they would arrived on or before 26 of Apr.

Best Regards,
PiDeveloper

All I gotta say is......

WOO-HOO!!!!!!!!!

Of course, now I would like to hear what plans PI has for updates to the apps. Here's what I am most interested in:

1) It would be nice if the jpg viewer issue was resolved (i.e., if the jpg you are viewing is not megapixels, then the image viewed will be teeny - something about automatically scaling images down 8x?).

2) I would love to see more apps modified to access the sm card directly , a'la CSpotRun. It would also be nice to see CSpotRun at least have bookmarking capability - when you're viewing a doc of the entire Bible, bookmarking would be a plus.... 8^)

3) And lastly, but MOSTLY.... here's to PI's eventually discovering how to allow apps (and their databases) to be run directly straight off the card!

I'm waiting.... LOL...

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Posted by PiDeveloper on 04-25-2001 05:22 AM:

Re: Re: Re: date pushed back again

quote:
Originally posted by headgamer

All I gotta say is......

WOO-HOO!!!!!!!!!

Of course, now I would like to hear what plans PI has for updates to the apps. Here's what I am most interested in:

1) It would be nice if the jpg viewer issue was resolved (i.e., if the jpg you are viewing is not megapixels, then the image viewed will be teeny - something about automatically scaling images down 8x?).

2) I would love to see more apps modified to access the sm card directly , a'la CSpotRun. It would also be nice to see CSpotRun at least have bookmarking capability - when you're viewing a doc of the entire Bible, bookmarking would be a plus.... 8^)

3) And lastly, but MOSTLY.... here's to PI's eventually discovering how to allow apps (and their databases) to be run directly straight off the card!

I'm waiting.... LOL...

Some response to your suggestion:
1) We would try to enhance our jpeg library. What I can tell is, it is techically possible to have actual size image viewing... but the speed maybe a problem for Visor.
Still looking into it.

2) The CSpotRun porting is originally done in my free time as a hobby. As I also have plenty of E-book for my Visor.
In fact free source code is available for download in our website now.

I haven't got time to enhance CspotRun right now. But I would to encourage other developers to adopter our Memplug FileSystem APIs. It may just spend a developer a few days to modify their application to take the advantage of Memplug, Full APIs document is included in our SDK for all registered Memplug developers.

3) PI has also see this point. Our team are looking into it.

But it is not high time to disclose anything now....
Pls give us some time.

Best Regards,
PiDeveloper

Posted by headgamer on 04-25-2001 12:48 PM:

No problem, PIDeveloper. It's good to see such a quick reply. And I'm glad to hear PI is aware of all these issues and are actively looking into them. I can be patient...

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Posted by dkessler on 04-25-2001 02:57 PM:

Re: CF/SM adapter not a sure thing

quote:
Originally posted by dvIceT

From briefly scanning through the Flashadapter Yahoo/eGroup, it sounds like the CF/SM adapter doesn't work consistently for everybody.

The only reported problem turned out to be because the Pretec adapter doesn't work with SM cards larger than 32MB.

quote:
There was an intriguing report of successful use of a MicroDrive for brief file transfers.

There is an developer who has added a battery pack and power supply circuit to a FlashAdapter and achieved reliable sustained operation with an IBM Microdrive

Hopefully he will be able to productize his design in the not to distant future.

quote:
If only they would develop a true Springboard, the superior file transfer speeds would put it on par with, if not ahead of the MemPlug, which is nice but slow.

Kopsis is expecting to receive prototypes of a "true" Springboard CF adapter next week so we can finish the software development for it. I can't say who's developing it or when it will be released, but rest assured that it is being developed.

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Posted by aquaboy on 04-25-2001 03:37 PM:

SURPRISE! Palmgear has pushed the date back to 4/30 now. I wish Amazon would give some kind of date. I don't think I want to use Palmgear any more.

Posted by headgamer on 04-25-2001 05:08 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by aquaboy
SURPRISE! Palmgear has pushed the date back to 4/30 now. I wish Amazon would give some kind of date. I don't think I want to use Palmgear any more.

Okay, this is just starting to tick me off. PIDeveloper, I don't understand the delays that have repeatedly occurred. I ordered from Palmgear.com on 4/3, and almost *4 weeks later*, it is still backordered - the shipping date KEEPS slipping. I needed the extra storage ability for a conference I attended 2 weeks ago. Personally, PI and Palmgear should pay to upgrade ALL backordered items to overnight or 2-day shipping for free, for all the inconvenience this has caused paying customers. I have been patient, but patience is wearing VERY thin. If this thing DOESN'T ship on 4/30 (the FOURTH quoted ship date), I will seriously have to consider cancelling my order. If there were delays in manufacturing, PI should have informed customers of this fact.

I have said my peace. Now I will go stew in my anger and frustration.

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Posted by Oliver99 on 04-25-2001 05:25 PM:

Is the new backorder date for new orders or for existing orders? PiDeveloper indicated that Palmgear was going to get a shipment before 4/26/2001.

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Posted by enhanceyourlife on 04-25-2001 05:28 PM:

Nobody knows because all PalmGear will send is a form letter saying that when they're in they will be shipped.

No s@#t!

Posted by Anomaly on 04-25-2001 09:02 PM:

You should see my post above. Memplug told me that they had only received a purchase order from PalmGear a couple of days ago, so you can't blame them. Based on the fact that PalmGear only lists the separate module as back-ordered, but not the bundles, I have to assume that it has been PalmGear's decision and an attempt to raise their profit level.

As for Amazon, again according to Memplug, they have not ordered any product. Since their site says the product isn't even available yet, I'd assume that they haven't updated their page in some time.

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