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Posted by Clovis on 03-08-2001 12:27 PM:

Take a look at the Edge posted on PDABuzz and discuss initial likes/dislikes.

Link below:

http://www2.pdabuzz.com/Forums/show...?threadid=14086


Posted by ckrupsha on 03-08-2001 12:47 PM:

I think the screen is narrower. Look at the proportions of the text to numerical graffiti areas.

Not very interesting form. I would call it a "Slab". I'll probably still purchase it though...


Posted by BrandonT on 03-08-2001 01:14 PM:

Unhappy Help!

Can someone please email the image to me? For some reason, the picture just says �must be access through PDA Buzz.com�. I tried going there through a new window instead of following the link, and it still isn�t working for me. Thanks! Send it to:[email protected]


Posted by csayers on 03-08-2001 01:15 PM:

Visor Edge

I agree with the previous post that it is a bit 'slab' like (although a definite improvement). Why can't anyone combine the smart design of Apple with Practical operating systems like Palm / Windows? (not that I love Windows it is just practical in today's computing world). A case in-point is provided by the following link.

http://www2.pdabuzz.com/Discussion/...TML/001212.html


Posted by lennonhead on 03-08-2001 02:13 PM:

I'm disappointed, but I'll wait until I see one in person before I make a final decision. I think the original picture was squashed from the sides, since I doubt HS upped the resolution to 160 x 240. I also hope the screen dimensions aren't smaller (like the m100), the current size is good.

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Posted by handspringer on 03-08-2001 04:20 PM:

A different pic

On the second page of this thread
http://www2.pdabuzz.com/Forums/show...?threadid=14086 shows a more realistic picture. We will have to wait a week to find out for sure. Do you like the stylus on the outside?

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Posted by acraniotes on 03-08-2001 04:24 PM:

Thumbs down

So, now we know what the love child of the CLIE and the Casio PV-400 looks like. Sorry Handspring, but my money is on the m50X.

-Adam

PS - Handspring, hire some real industrial designers already!


Posted by Morris on 03-08-2001 04:33 PM:

Is the PDA Buzz picture appropriately proportioned?

When I saw the picture on PDABuzz (they want credit, I'll give it to them...), the unit looked awful...long. So I took out my IVDx and compared it to the screen shot of the Edge. The 4 icons in the text entry area - the house, the drop-down, the calculator, and the magnifying glass - look slightly extended, or out of proportion. So I copied the picture to my computer and played with the proportions until the icons looked like what I see on my IVDx. It's a shorter unit, much more in line with our expectations of a palm-os device - more and more like a Palm V. I've attached the .jpg file of the resized picture for your review.

I don't know any more about what Handspring's up to than anyone else, but it's a thought. Any opinions?


Posted by foo fighter on 03-08-2001 04:35 PM:

Unhappy

Hmm...this is a bit disappointing. After all, this is supposed to Handspring's answer to the Palm V. So far, I'm not impressed. But I will wait to see it in person. One question I have is...where's the cover? Will it use a standard snap-off like the Visor, or will it use a flip-cover like the Palm V?

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Posted by Hoser_back_home on 03-08-2001 04:48 PM:

hmmm...if it has a good metal feel like my Canon Elph Digicam i think it might be pretty cool.

odds are that it uses aluminum for the casing...not stainless steel like the Elph.

otherwise, what's new? is it going to use a lithium polymer or standard lithium ion?

anybody know?

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Posted by Gameboy70 on 03-08-2001 05:07 PM:

Re: Is the PDA Buzz picture appropriately proportioned?

quote:
Originally posted by Morris
When I saw the picture on PDABuzz (they want credit, I'll give it to them...), the unit looked awful...long. So I took out my IVDx and compared it to the screen shot of the Edge. The 4 icons in the text entry area - the house, the drop-down, the calculator, and the magnifying glass - look slightly extended, or out of proportion. So I copied the picture to my computer and played with the proportions until the icons looked like what I see on my IVDx. It's a shorter unit, much more in line with our expectations of a palm-os device - more and more like a Palm V. I've attached the .jpg file of the resized picture for your review.


I hope you're onto something. The PDABuzz picture looked pretty terrible. Your photoshopping it to proportion make the unit look halfway decent. Still, hardly a Palm Vx/m505 killer. Like every else, I'll suspend final judgement until I see it in retail.


Posted by akur on 03-08-2001 05:20 PM:

I hope if they use expansion pack, they don't use the serial port.
because if they do that, users cannot use the visor with a keyboard and a springboard modules(minstrel s)

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Posted by septimus on 03-08-2001 06:03 PM:

PDAbuzz is flooded, I've been trying to get to page two for about 10 minutes now.

quote:
Note: Due to the posting of pictures of the new Handspring Visor Edge, our servers are being overloaded ... please be patient as we try to lighten the load and restore them to their normal state.


Random question: How do you think these teaser pics get released? PDABuzz sez:

quote:
As I mentioned on Saturday, I have seen pictures of what is said to be the new Visor product but could not share them ... until now.


Are we just pawns in Handspring's dirty, dirty game ? Seriously, I wonder how much boards like VisorCentral factor into corporate plans...

Unless it's wicked small or has got more memory, I'll stick to VDX.

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Posted by RocketScientist on 03-08-2001 06:22 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by acraniotes
Handspring, hire some real industrial designers already!


Actually, Handspring does hire some real industrial designers, funnily enough, I think that they used the same industrial design group as Palm used for their PalmV. The name of the company is IDEO... check out their site: www.ideo.com

Palm V: http://www.ideo.com/studies/palm5.htm

Visor: http://www.ideo.com/studies/handspring.htm

The industrial design is not taken lightly, and I am sure that they have thought alot about the new design... alot.
-Russ


Posted by foo fighter on 03-08-2001 06:27 PM:

I edited the image to correct a few distortions, and to remove the "over-stretched" effect.

UPDATE: New image
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Posted by yardie on 03-08-2001 06:42 PM:

Thumbs up Like what I see

I like what I see so far. Definitely will be getting it. Finally a Visor that I can carry around with me all the time!


Posted by foo fighter on 03-08-2001 07:12 PM:

Update: Here is another variation where I removed (or at least tried) portions of the PDABuzz watermark.


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Posted by acraniotes on 03-08-2001 07:15 PM:

Thumbs down I still say, "Yuck".

RocketScientist-

Yes, I know that Ideo was contracted to do both the V and the Visor (possibly the Edge?)- but Palm must have paid Ideo off to lay crap designs on Handspring and then back them up with fake data (like focus groups, consumer trials, usability graphs, etc...) to support their final recommendations. It's the only thing that could possibly explain how a Visor ended up being even less attractive than a Palm III-series. "But it's got a translucent color case!" you say? So what? As far as I'm concerned, the same applies to the Edge.

That said, I won't argue that a Visor - any Visor - represents a much better value than a Palm. If the Edge had come out a year ago, most likely I would have bought one over the Vx because of the inherent expandability. Unfortunately, it didn't come out a year ago, and I can't see for the life of me why someone would shell their hard earned bucks for an Edge when they could get an m500 with OS 4.0, 16Mb (rumored), new "paper white" screen technology, integrated SD slot, and a much more attractive design (notice that I'm not comparing it to the m505).

Just my $0.02, so don't bother flaming me.

-Adam


Posted by Gameboy70 on 03-08-2001 07:29 PM:

Re: I still say, "Yuck".

quote:
Originally posted by acraniotes
Unfortunately, it didn't come out a year ago, and I can't see for the life of me why someone would shell their hard earned bucks for an Edge when they could get an m500 with OS 4.0, 16Mb (rumored), new "paper white" screen technology, integrated SD slot, and a much more attractive design (notice that I'm not comparing it to the m505).


I've never read anything about the m500 have a new "paper white" screen technology. You mean it's going to have true black-on-white text? That's at least 60% of the reason I've considered upgrading to a color PDA. Boy, the next couple of months are going to be a consumer buffet.


Posted by RocketScientist on 03-08-2001 07:33 PM:

Re: I still say, "Yuck".

quote:
Originally posted by acraniotes
RocketScientist-

Yes, I know that Ideo was contracted to do both the V and the Visor (possibly the Edge?)- but Palm must have paid Ideo off to lay crap designs on Handspring and then back them up with fake data (like focus groups, consumer trials, usability graphs, etc...) to support their final recommendations. It's the only thing that could possibly explain how a Visor ended up being even less attractive than a Palm III-series. "But it's got a translucent color case!" you say? So what? As far as I'm concerned, the same applies to the Edge.

That said, I won't argue that a Visor - any Visor - represents a much better value than a Palm. If the Edge had come out a year ago, most likely I would have bought one over the Vx because of the inherent expandability. Unfortunately, it didn't come out a year ago, and I can't see for the life of me why someone would shell their hard earned bucks for an Edge when they could get an m500 with OS 4.0, 16Mb (rumored), new "paper white" screen technology, integrated SD slot, and a much more attractive design (notice that I'm not comparing it to the m505).

Just my $0.02, so don't bother flaming me.

-Adam



I hope that my other post was not taken as a flame, I don't intend on flaming anybody... everyone has an opinion. I would doubt though that Palm paid IDEO to influence other companies... I am sure that you were being sarcastic.

I have aways been interested in industrial design (I am an architecture student), so it is interesting to me that one company would do products for competing companies. I would agree that the Palm V is a sweet design, and it looks like the M500's will be sweet too, ofcourse all the images I have seen are too hard to understand scale, detail, and ofcourse material.

It will be an interesting couple of months for PDA's... that is for sure.
-Russ


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