BobbyMike
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Yardie,
Have you thought that a possible reason for any of Iraq's neighbors not wanting anyone getting into a war with Iraq is just plain old common sense? War tends to spill over and can have enormous consequences for innocent bystanders. This is the same guy who killed millions of Iranians ("fellow Muslims"). I posit that that's probably closer to the truth. If he did tomorrow of a heart attack, there wouldn't be too many Muslim tears shed (unless they were crocodile tears).
That being said, I don't personally believe war will solve this problem. This problem has been brewing for centuries and will not go away with a single war. The true problem is, whether you believe it to be true or not, that the Islamic nations are truly imcompatible with any other way of thought. Unlike Buddihsts, Christians, Raelians, etc. they feel they have been charged with converting the entire world to their worldview, with no room for oppsing thoughts. (If you actually knew what's currently going in Africa you would be amazed, but since the only people seemingly interested in the slaughter of millions of defenseless African men, women and children are Christian missionaries -notoriously unreliable people - it doesn't get much airplay) In fact, in their first 110 years of existence they had conquered, by force, the whole of the land bordering the Mediterranean from Istanbul (not Constantinople) all the way round the southern edge as far up into France as Tours! Look at a map, that's a lot of people forced into a religion by threat of death. The current Muslim fundamentalists are in the same way of thought. If you disagree, you die.
The Crusades didn't start with Christians going into Muslim countries, they started when the Muslims invaded and killed all their non-muslim neighbors. If it weren't for Charles the Hammer (a Frenchman!) we'd all be Muslim.
Now, of course, I suppose that someone will say that that's true of Christians too. I would have to point out that Jesus Christ (followers of whom we call Christians) never advocated violence, in fact he said to turn the other cheek. Mohammed, who originally advocated peaceful conversion, later changed his mind and said that Allah wanted people either to follow him or perish.
Man will not solve this problem, only the Living God will.
BTW before anyone brings up The Spanish Inquisistion, do your homework. That didn't involve conversion, or nonbelief, but heresy or non-doctrinal thinking amongst the Catholic Church. America was founded by Reformation-minded Christians who believed that no man/woman should be forced towards any doctrine. How that got changed into a wall completely separating Government (public life) and Religious (private life) in the 1960's (no, it's not in our Constitution) is an interesting look at how Secular Humanists have tried to change what actually happened into what they want to have happened)
I'm sure you will disagree with all/part of this Yardie, and I don't hold you responsible. I realize that Canada isn't really working on the world stage right know, being divorced from any real power base. What was the last war Canada got involved in? WWII? Must be nice have a neighbor that no-one wants to go toe-to-toe with. You get all the benefits of a strong military force, without any economic liability. Gives you a chance to do a lot of deep introspective thinking about how the rest of the world is screwing things up. Was probably rough when the USSR was together, what with the fear that they might lob a nuke or two this way, but since they mysteriously fell apart (socialism is viable! ) it must be a relief.
Last thought.... If an unmarried woman gets pregnant, what are the possible ways it can be handled?
Pro-choice: Be unwed mother or abort the fetus.
Christian: Be an unwed mother or have the baby and have an open adoption.
Islamic: Be an unwed mother, nurse the baby and then be stoned to death when the baby is weaned.
edited by me to correct mis-spelling
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