news | articles | reviews | software | modules | accessories | discussion | faq | mobile | store
VisorCentral.com >> Discussion >> General Chat >> Visor General Chat
best monochrome display?

Post a New Thread | Post A Reply

  Last Thread   Next Thread
Author
Topic: best monochrome display?    
rij73
Member

Registered: Jan 2003
Location:
Posts: 2

best monochrome display?

Hello all... I currently own and love a Visor Deluxe. I've been thinking lately about upgrading before all the decent Visors are gone.

I want to stick with monochrome, because I think the viewability is best. But, I am wondering if any of the monochrome Visors have a better display than the Deluxe. Do any of them have a gray screen (without the greenish hue), or a better (stronger) backlight?

Basically, I want to stick with the same basic screen, but if it was slightly better, that would be great. I know the HandEra has a spiffy monochrome screen, but I don't want to spent $300...

Thanks!

rij73 is offline Old Post 01-27-2003 09:24 PM
Click Here to See the Profile for rij73 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
alight
Member

Registered: Jul 2002
Location:
Posts: 120

The Tops is the Neo ... without question.

Started with a Deluxe a couple of years ago and was happy with it. Screen was better than any other Palm monochrome device.

Then came the Platinum with a newer operating system. Faster than Deluxe but same screen.

The Neo ... ahhh! Have been using 2 Neos for about a year. The screen is definitely the best, bar none!

Deluxes and Plats do a good job. Neo does a great job.

an avid book reader and publisher.

alight is offline Old Post 01-28-2003 02:00 AM
Click Here to See the Profile for alight Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
rij73
Member

Registered: Jan 2003
Location:
Posts: 2

Thanks for the tip! Can you be any more specific about the neo screen?

What exactly is better? Does it get rid of that greenish hue of the screen? Is the backlight better?

rij73 is offline Old Post 01-28-2003 02:33 AM
Click Here to See the Profile for rij73 Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
EJSHUMAK
Member

Registered: Aug 2001
Location: ILLINOIS
Posts: 227

Neo and Edge--
Sharp and with a great backlight--Still green--especially with the backlight on--
but more of a grey without the backlight--

EJSHUMAK is offline Old Post 02-02-2003 07:27 AM
Click Here to See the Profile for EJSHUMAK Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
alight
Member

Registered: Jul 2002
Location:
Posts: 120

While the Deluxe and the Plat have good screens, the Neo is a noticeable difference - sharper, crisper. I've tried side by side comparisons and the Neo is definitely better.

The screen is green, but the black text on green really works well.

Palms have a muddy goldish-orange screen that is most unpleasant in addition to being smaller screen size.

And Sony - forget it for reading. The high res makes the print very small on the already small screen.

And, as for color, in addition to price and having to bump up (down) to rechargeable batteries, I found reading to be difficult on a color (Prism) screen. And, I know there are many who disagree with that ... but, what remains, is a whole slew of folks who would hate to have to read on anything but a Neo.

As for the backlight, except to view Big Clock in the middle of the night (not often), I really don't use it.

alight is offline Old Post 02-03-2003 12:26 AM
Click Here to See the Profile for alight Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
cml
Member

Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Vermont
Posts: 148

quote:
Originally posted by alight
Sony - forget it for reading. The high res makes the print very small on the already small screen.



seriously? I was looking at a monochrome Sony PEG-SJ20 (i think) at RadioShack and it seems as long as the font size is on high it seemed pretty good. The thing I loved about it was it had an awesome always-on white backlight that made for excellent contrast, because I have noticed that my Neo's screen suffers in darker situations (in a dim room, for example, where the Neo's backlight wouldn't help). The PEG-SJ20 also was very reasonably priced at $149 and can easily replace my killer Springboard application - backing up, with a 16MB Memory Stick, and I could also use Memory Stick to hold many books.

I am constantly searching for an appropritate Neo replacement, as I have a gut feeling that my Neo will die soon .

- cml

cml is offline Old Post 02-03-2003 12:13 PM
Click Here to See the Profile for cml Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
alight
Member

Registered: Jul 2002
Location:
Posts: 120

Here's a curious thing ...

While I'm no technician or engineer, I do have an idea that perhaps the case and screen materials used for the Neo are different from the Plat and Deluxe.

We know the case is definitely different. Quite a few comments about the slick plastic, "shows fingerprints" cases. However...

Here's a curious thing ... I mentioned (above) a side-by-side comparison of a Plat and Neo with Neo's clearer screen. I also did a side-by-side comparison of a Smoke Neo and a Blue Neo and the Blue Neo is my choice.

Why? Not sure, except perhaps the darker blue border/case presents a nice frame for a page of text.

I have both a Blue Neo and a Smoke Neo and, though the Smoke is the newer of the two, I decided to make it my back-up and continue using Blue. I'll also just continue to use my designated "special eyeglass/screen/case cleaning" cloth and enjoy wiping the blue case!

Re: Sony - all I can say is, as soon as I installed CSpotRun on an SJ20 and opened a book I knew my eyes weren't up to it.

As for reading light, I try to make it a practice to use my book reading device the same way I would a paper book - avoid eyestrain by reading in good light - kind of old fashioned, I guess.

alight is offline Old Post 02-03-2003 04:01 PM
Click Here to See the Profile for alight Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
cml
Member

Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Vermont
Posts: 148

Re: Here's a curious thing ...

quote:
Originally posted by alight
Re: Sony - all I can say is, as soon as I installed CSpotRun on an SJ20 and opened a book I knew my eyes weren't up to it.

As for reading light, I try to make it a practice to use my book reading device the same way I would a paper book - avoid eyestrain by reading in good light - kind of old fashioned, I guess.


Well a healthy lamp is always a good thing

By the way, thanks for the recommendations of CSpotRun in some of your other posts alight - I started using it last week with some Sherlock Holmes stories from Project Gutenberg and I'm thoroughly loving the Neo book-reading experience. You've got another one hooked on e-books.

- cml

cml is offline Old Post 02-04-2003 03:25 AM
Click Here to See the Profile for cml Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
alight
Member

Registered: Jul 2002
Location:
Posts: 120

Sharing the Good Stuff

It is always a delight to share good stuff, especially when we see so many people struggling to find simple and affordable answers in an area (book reading on handhelds) that has so much misinformation, disinformation, and confusion.

Here's something that was in Fred Langa's newsletter yesterday:
10) Just For Grins
Reader Brett S. offers this item:

If Microsoft had been the first to invent books:

1. Before you can open the cover of your new book, you must obtain a book activation code by phoning Microsoft.
2. Sorry, only one person may ever read your book.
3. It's full of spelling mistakes and typos.
4. When you're reading your book, the type can mysteriously disappear.
5. Libraries, which are for sharing books, are illegal.
6. You must acknowledge you have read and understood the Book License Agreement Hype (BLAH) before you can read your book.
7. Microsoft has the right to enter your premises to conduct book inspections to make sure your book is being read in accordance with the BLAH.
8. The Book Users' Group General Alliance (BUGGA) calculates that the annual loss of revenues to Microsoft arising from BLAH violations in 2001 was $10.97 billion.
9. There are two versions of your book - the "Standard" and the "Pro" versions. In the standard version, those pages containing the most useful information have been stuck together.
10. Confidential information is inexplicably in bigger type that can be easily read by anyone glancing over your shoulder.
--------------
No kidding

alight is offline Old Post 02-04-2003 03:32 PM
Click Here to See the Profile for alight Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
argent
Member

Registered: Jan 2000
Location:
Posts: 391

quote:
Originally posted by alight
And Sony - forget it for reading. The high res makes the print very small on the already small screen.
You do know, right, that the law requiring you to always use the smallest font possible on your handheld was defeated 308-1 on a voice vote. It's now safe to pick a larger font, find a compromise between letter size and letter quality that suits your eyes...

__________________
Rev. Peter da Silva, ULC<br>
<a href=http://www.taronga.com/~peter/>Ar rug t� barr�g ar do mhact�re inniu?</a>

argent is offline Old Post 02-11-2003 03:28 PM
Click Here to See the Profile for argent Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
All times are GMT. The time now is 06:52 PM. Post New Thread    Post A Reply
  Last Thread   Next Thread
[ Show a Printable Version | Email This Page to Someone! | Receive updates to this thread ]

Forum Jump:

Powered by: vBulletin Version 2.3.4
Copyright ©2000, 2001, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.