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meitsjustme
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Manchester, England
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PalmGear

just had a whole new facelift, check it out!

Just gonna go and test out their server, see if there are
any improvement on that one (the old one was pretty badly...

There has been previews/testings for the facelift a while
ago, it looks pretty good. =)

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04-07-2001 04:16 PM

BEN
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Is this just a change in the appearence of the site, or is it a change in the database, server, search engine, etc...?

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04-07-2001 07:35 PM

HostileJava
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I think it's just a change in the appearance of the site. It seems to be running just as slow.

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04-08-2001 01:08 AM

timmins
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It's running dead slow.

They truly need to ditch this ColdFusion backend that they have. It's going to be a pain but if they could just switch to php or asp, they probably would retain many users by the efficiency of finding what you want fast.

I still won't visit the site.

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04-10-2001 01:40 PM

timmins
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Ha... two minutes later, this is what I got:

Error Occurred While Processing Request
Error Diagnostic Information
Server busy or unable to fulfill request. The server is unable to fulfill your request due to extremely high traffic or an unexpected internal error. Please attempt your request again (if you are repeatedly unsuccessful you should notify the site administrator). (Location Code: 25)

Please inform the site administrator that this error has occurred (be sure to include the contents of this page in your message to the administrator).

Nothing has changed...

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04-10-2001 01:42 PM

EricG
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Well so far (knock on wood) it hasn't caused IE on my machine to lock up & freeze, requiring a reboot.. that's at least one good thing..

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04-10-2001 04:17 PM

homer
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quote:
They truly need to ditch this ColdFusion backend that they have. It's going to be a pain but if they could just switch to php or asp, they probably would retain many users by the efficiency of finding what you want fast.

ColdFusion isn't necessarily the culprit. ColdFusion is just as fast as ASP and/or PHP.

Whatever their problem is, however, it needs to be fixed. Their site is as slow as it has every been.

Ugh.

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04-10-2001 05:14 PM

ss@rr
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Though slow, I still find myself going back to PalmGear for the most recent updates, the MyPalmGear page of apps (hope they'll up the limit again, as I'm approaching 50 apps!) and about the most comprehensive listing I've found.

Buy your stuff there and hopefully they'll get enough $$ to upgrade the hardware/whatever. (unsolicited plug )

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04-10-2001 06:16 PM

timmins
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Homer, I think you might stand alone saying that ColdFusion isn't the culprit. I could search out other threads mentioning how Coldfusion is a development platform of the past and it is basically scaled for small to medium sized sites. Nothing of the likes of Palmgear... although with all the gripes I see on this board, I have no idea where they get their hits from.

I would wager all my years of web development on the fact that their server and their Coldfusion generated pages are causing this problem. Besides the fact that my backup dial-up (I was a Northpoint victim) sucks and they can't route data for the life of them... it's only two hops from Alter.net to Palmgear.com. It's an internal problem...

]
2 243 ms 224 ms 199 ms Cisco1_Dialinx_Rack1028.saturn.bbn.com [4.16.56
1]
3 269 ms 224 ms 249 ms HUB2-pvc-R1028.saturn.bbn.com [206.241.82.198]
4 299 ms 349 ms 297 ms s6-1.bstnma1-cr9.bbnplanet.net [4.24.89.29]
5 294 ms 322 ms 274 ms p6-1.bstnma1-ba1.bbnplanet.net [4.24.5.222]
6 294 ms 274 ms 300 ms p7-0.bstnma1-br1.bbnplanet.net [4.24.7.117]
7 295 ms 298 ms 299 ms p9-0.nycmny1-nbr2.bbnplanet.net [4.24.6.50]
8 294 ms 274 ms 299 ms p1-0.nycmny1-br2.bbnplanet.net [4.24.10.86]
9 319 ms 299 ms 299 ms p4-0.nycmny1-br1.bbnplanet.net [4.24.6.225]
10 345 ms 298 ms 274 ms p1-0.nycmny1-ba1.bbnplanet.net [4.24.6.230]
11 323 ms 299 ms 324 ms a1-0.xnycmny4-uunet.bbnplanet.net [4.0.6.142]
12 271 ms 274 ms 324 ms 0.at-6-0-0.XL2.NYC9.ALTER.NET [152.63.18.226]
13 294 ms 299 ms 299 ms 0.so-7-0-0.XR1.NYC9.ALTER.NET [152.63.23.138]
14 296 ms 299 ms 348 ms 181.ATM7-0.GW3.NYC9.ALTER.NET [152.63.19.9]
15 294 ms 324 ms 299 ms harvard-gw.customer.alter.net [157.130.255.198]

16 319 ms 299 ms 324 ms 207.152.170.61
17 329 ms 349 ms 299 ms 140.239.225.133
18 363 ms 300 ms 299 ms 64.55.36.136
19 292 ms 299 ms 298 ms palmgear.com [64.55.36.62]

ALSO HOMER, how many times have you done a search or clicked on a link and then get this white screen of death saying an error has occured and to contact the Administrator. That's because the don't do load-balancing and because their development platforms sucks. Coldfusion sucks. Name one enterprise level website that uses Coldfusion? Mentioning Allaire is cheating.

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04-11-2001 06:01 AM

homer
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quote:

Homer, I think you might stand alone saying that ColdFusion isn't the culprit. I could search out other threads mentioning how Coldfusion is a development platform of the past and it is basically scaled for small to medium sized sites.

Show me some benchmarking studies and THEN I'll consider what you say as factual. I probably do not disagree with you in that technologies like ASP and Coldfusion probably shouldn't be used on huge sites, but I wouldn't go saying "Coldfusion is bad. ASP is good."

Coldfusion and ASP are virtually identical in how they work. If you say Coldfusion is poor, then ASP is as well. It can very well be argued that neither of these should be used are large sites and one should switch to JSP or some such technology.

I'm guessing that PalmGear's problems have little to do with the scripting language they went with. I have a feeling it has much more to do with their database and server network.

As for sites using ColdFusion, here are a few (and they all seem to work MUCH faster than PalmGear)

http://www.fao.com/

http://www.autobytel.com/

http://www.casio.com/

ASP tends to be more popular since a lot of back-end web developers come from Windows/Visual Basic backgrounds and it is just easier to learn ASP for them.

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04-11-2001 02:25 PM