Registered: Jul 2000
Location: Chester, MT USA
Posts: 7

Alright, here is where i need some help here. I am going to be a junior in highschool, and i am thinking of getting a visor, but i will probably want the latest thing when i go to college. If I buy a Visor Deluxe (the one with the big memory) will it still be pretty good in 2 years? Or is Handspring going to come out with something cooler very SOON? My brother told me they probably won't come out with a new visor for a while because of the expansion... just need some input from you all. Thank you


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Colt Frederickson

Registered: Jul 2000
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 3

OMG! I regestered just to reply to this post!

I really don't want to sound like a jerk, but...

I must ask, are you working your butt off and buying this yourself? Or were you born with a silver spoon in your mouth and your P's are buying this for you?

Heck, I'm 24, and I just purchased my first PDA - A VDx.

Must be nice to be you...

Answer to your question, expect the PDA/Hardware industry to 'roll-over' about every 6 months. If it's out now, it will be cheaper in 6 months, due to the new bigger and better product the company is releasing. That's true for just about any digital technology.

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Grainger.Com!

Registered: Mar 2000
Location: NC, Indiana
Posts: 465

I don't want to sound like a jerk, but just because someone in High School buys something nice doesn't mean he has a silver spoon in his mouth. I bought my Blue VDx in the middle of my Freshman year and I paid for every cent of it on my own. So did my friend.

In reply to the 'should I wait' argument: There is a color Visor that is planned I believe--but don't count on it being released anytime soon. Besides, someone on this forum says there's a law that states "Never wait for the next best thing, because by then, there will be another next best thing". If you really want it, get it. Especially for the Stowaway. I just got mine this Sunday for my birthday, and I love it. I can't wait to use this for taking notes. We sometimes have a whole 70 minute period of note-taking and this will be a Godsend! If you can spare $74 bucks, get a Stowaway if you can--this will be my primary usage for my Visor now.

Hope This Helps!
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-Vincent
All these guys have no game, I wish I would have stayed

[This message has been edited by Vinny (edited 07-24-2000).]

Registered: Mar 2000
Location: Heidelberg, Germany
Posts: 85

Hey, give Gremlin16 a break! What difference does it make if he saved for it himself or had it bought for him? He's got a valid question about the longevity of the product and doesn't want to be stuck with something that is going to be replaced in a few months with something better. I'm glad he is asking good questions and is using a piece of technology to improve his time management. I don't think having a Visor is a sign of immense wealth and having been born well. Heck, it is about the least expensive PDA with the best features on the market, thus the skyrocketing sales.

And yes, ryvitek, you do sound like a jerk...

Registered: Jul 2000
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 3

Oh well - I'm just scared of the kids coming up in this world... They've never worked a day of physical activity in their lives...

Very scared indeed...

Registered: May 2000
Location: Houston, TX, USA
Posts: 194

I got mine in 8th grade for my christmas, birthday and graduation presents. My parents actually stuck to it that it was all 3 lol, but dammit to hell it was worth it!!! Even though im on my 3rd visor Deluxe. Theyre great though, they only break if youre stupid, or if you let someone else (your little brother or a cute girl) touch it

Registered: Mar 2000
Location: NC, Indiana
Posts: 465

quote:

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Originally posted by ryvitek:
Oh well - I'm just scared of the kids coming up in this world... They've never worked a day of physical activity in their lives...

Very scared indeed...

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Registered: Jul 2000
Location: Chester, MT USA
Posts: 7

Well, I wasn't born with a silver spoon. I freakin work DANG hard for my money, and I am just asking a question, just because you didn't have a job at 16 doesn't mean you should yell at me. I work everyday to get money so STICK IT!

And thanks to everyone else.....



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Colt Frederickson

Registered: Dec 1999
Location: brooklyn
Posts: 268

quote:

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Originally posted by ryvitek:
Oh well - I'm just scared of the kids coming up in this world... They've never worked a day of physical activity in their lives...

Very scared indeed...

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Registered: Sep 1999
Location: Seattle, WA, USA
Posts: 406

Looks like you covered everything I was going to say Vinny. I support your comments. Well said. I was in the same situation before, and bought a PalmIII my sophmore year of high school. I had two stolen (PalmIII's), but luckily they were bought online with my mom's american express (don't get any wrong ideas.... How is a 16y.o. [2yrs ago] supposed to have a credit card? I paid her back). American Express covers lost/stolen items up to 90 days or something like that. After the second one was stolen, I went to a Newton 130 for a while (Palms seemed to be a target item to steal ), then went to a Visor Deluxe this past XMas.

Registered: Dec 1999
Location: Kuala Lumpur
Posts: 247

I agree. Remember that a few "young people who have done no physical activity" are actually millioaires now. Just look at Steve Jobs or Bill Gates who became millionaires before they turned 30! I'm 28 and in my country, getting a Visor Deluxe means shelling out more than half my monthly income and yet I saved and managed to buy a Visor.

To answer your question, Gremlin16, I heard that Handspring is gonna come out with a Palm V-like device soon. Jeff Hawkins said as much in one of his PC Epo interviews. Of course, such a device would most likely be more expensive than the current Visor. so, it all boils down to whether you want style and slimness over the affordbility of the current Visor.

For me, I'd go with the current Visor because:
1. I can't wait till December - I need one now!
2. I'm already a nerd and getting a oooler-looking handheld won't make me look any cooler.

Registered: Jul 2000
Location: Richmond, Virginia
Posts: 6

Just my 2 cents. He does have a valid question...especially if he is working for his own money and wants to spend it wisely. I'm only 19 and I've been working since I was 16...full time for the past year. I spent countless time reading every review and scrap of info I could find before I went out and bought a VDx. $250 is a lot of money to spend. (Factoring in taxes and such I spent almost an entire week's paycheck on it.) Personally I love it and use it a lot now. More so when school starts back in the fall. It doesn't look like anything newer will be released anytime soon so go ahead and buy it, always trade up later.

Registered: Nov 1999
Location: Redwood City CA
Posts: 472

quote:

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Originally posted by ryvitek:
Oh well - I'm just scared of the kids coming up in this world... They've never worked a day of physical activity in their lives...

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Registered: Nov 1999
Location: Redwood City CA
Posts: 472

quote:

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Originally posted by Gremlin16:
If I buy a Visor Deluxe (the one with the big memory) will it still be pretty good in 2 years? Or is Handspring going to come out with something cooler very SOON?

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Registered: Jul 2000
Location: Chester, MT USA
Posts: 7

Thanks to everyone that helped me out. And everyone who stands up for people who work for a living. I am glad at least someone stands up for working and spending wisely when you're younger.. THANKS!!!!

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Colt Frederickson

Registered: Jul 2000
Location: Beverly, MA
Posts: 125

Well, if there were Visor Deluxes when I was a junior in high school, and if I was actually making enough money to buy one, I'm sure I would have bought one. Although my parents probably would have frowned upon me "wasting" my money on such a frivolous "gadget".

Anyway, I don't know what Handsprings plans are as far as future Visors. If you're following their financial status, they're still not making a profit (yeah they're generating revenue, and yeah their losses are decreasing, but they are still losing money). So I don't think it would be advantageous for them to release a whole new model at this point. I predict that they will concentrate on encouraging the development of 3rd party Springboard modules, as this is the Visor's major selling point. So, if you have at least narrowed your choice down to buying a Handspring product, I think you would be fairly safe buying a Visor Deluxe at this point.

Unless Handspring decides to gamble, and reacts to Palm's recent announcement of several changes to its product line...

Registered: Oct 1999
Location: Metro Station, Hollywood and Highland
Posts: 1018

To answer the original question: yes, get the Visor. You'll definitely get two years out of it. There'll always be some better unit six months from now, so it's pointless to wait. 8MB is more than adequate for most people, since Palm OS products don't handle multimedia files like the Pocket PC. I have even use 2 megs on mine.

Registered: Apr 2000
Location: Santa Clarita, CA
Posts: 198

O.k., I'll jump in:

Leave the poor kid alone. Leave the jerk alone. Let's just try to answer the question without getting tooooo off topic.

My opinion - A Visor is like a car, or a cell phone, or really anything else electric or electronic. They're ever changing, and there will always be a newer better thing coming out shortly. You can wait for it, and never have anything, or you can bite the bullet and get and enjoy it now.

The way I look at it is: It's not an investment, it's a purchase. If you think you will get your hard earned $250 out of it, get it, and hopefully 2 years from now you will still be using it and it will still have some value. You can wait for price to go down, or for new technology to come out, but even if you get a better deal in 6 months, you've lost 6 months worth of Visor use, and that is worth something.

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Hmmmmmmmm......

Registered: Jul 2000
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 3

Anyone heard of a flame war?

And yes, I own a Visor - read my posts. I'm still scared ...

Registered: Jul 2000
Location: <br><img src=
Posts: 36

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Originally posted by ryvitek:
Anyone heard of a flame war?

And yes, I own a Visor - read my posts. I'm still scared ...

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