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shockwave869
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besides the software, etc.
Does one have to make a connection fee or pay for a normal cell phone call when connecting a cell phone to a visor for wireless purposes?

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MarkEagle
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To use the data services of SprintPCS, I need to subscribe to their Wireless Web plan which is $10.00/month and airtime comes out of tmy standard plan minutes.

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Yeah, Sprint is an extra $10 per month, Cingular is $7? plus $0.15 per min, Verizon is $7 plus a per minute charge, ATT is a per minute charge, I don't remember exactly how much but it makes ATT the most expensive for wireless data for the Visor.

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Not true!

For Verizon, you don't need to pay the extra $7 a month if you're going to use your own ISP. The extra charge is to use their Mobile Web service (which was designed for cell phones and adds zero value for Visor access, IMHO).

You're better off just buying a cable connector and using your cell phone just as you would any other modem on a dial-up connection. In fact, I cancelled my Mobile Web service when I finally got a cable connection. Why suffer that foolish WAP stuff when you can get full Web access through a Visor?

You still have to pay the per-minute charges, though. If you want to avoid per-minute charges, you may be better off with a Minstrel which gives you a persistent connection.

I can't vouch for Sprint or AT&T, but I suspect the same is true for them.

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I can't vouch for Sprint or AT&T, but I suspect the same is true for them.


SprintPCS has yet to give me a definitive answer... but it is my understanding that in order for the phone to make a data call, the Wireless Web option needs to be enabled. Of course, you can still use the WW at .39/minute without enabling WW.

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yeah, I have sprint as well and you have to pay the $10 per month wireless web access for data.

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That's what they tell you, of course, because they want to control your Internet access. But have you guys tried hooking up your Visor to your cellphone and calling another dial-up ISP, not theirs, without paying the extra charge? I don't understand why it wouldn't work for you, just like it worked for me on Verizon.

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But have you guys tried hooking up your Visor to your cellphone and calling another dial-up ISP, not theirs, without paying the extra charge?


That's just what I do most of the time. The problem is that the phones that support SprintPCS data access must be data-enabled. They somehow signal the network that a given call is data instead of voice. I don't know about the other providers, but the actual modem hardware is physically located on the SprintPCS side of the network. The phones need to tell the network "hey, I'm making a data connection here".

SprintPCS has never told me I had to use their internet features... they just gave me a handful of places and services to start with (when accessing directly from the phone) that are fully customizable as well. I can add, modify, and delete to my hearts content. For raw ISP access, I'm free to do whatever I want as long as the phone I'm using is data-capable. As a matter of fact, the very first thing I did after building a Visor cable for my StarTAC was to dial-up my regular ISP.

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