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Sastian,

Great looking product!

Do the Palm III Series Lid Reproductions and the Visor Flip Lid use the same Flip-Clip?

I was thinking of ordering your Palm III lids for now and then replacing with the clear Visor Flip Lid when they're available. Never removing the Flip-Clip itself seems like it would be kinder to my Visor.

-- Monica

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Do the Palm III Series Lid Reproductions and the Visor Flip Lid use the same Flip-Clip?

-- Monica

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Re: flip-lid vs. Palm III reproduction lids

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Originally posted by Zyll

Could you please tell me what the difference is between these two lids? I would like to decide whether it is worth my while to hold out for the flip-lid. If possible, could you please post an image of the upcoming flip-lid?

Also, I am planning on getting a VisorPhone, and read in this thread that your product would be compatible with it. I would like to know how this will work, as the Palm III reproduction lids appear that they would be hindered from folding back by the top of the VisorPhone.

Thanks in advance,

Zyll.

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Ahhhh. the difference... I can start by telling you that when our dissention towards the stock lid that came with my first Visor was realized last year we started down the exact same path. We then recognized after a few prototypes that we were limiting the use of the springboard slot. (which honestly is the defining factor of owning a HS product over a palm) Don't get me wrong I like the double hinged lids myself. My first PDA was a Tandy ZPDA (casiopia) and that's what I originally envisioned for a lid due to it, but the compatibility with springboard modules is essential. With their design, at best it will work on only one module you may own. It will also only work with standard size modules. Modified or purchased. Now if this is on a sixpack, I can understand leaving the thing in but if you ever plan on owning more than one module, you will need a Flip-Clip.

About your concern with the clearance of the lid with the VisorPhone. I plan on posting the photos that will ease your concern on our site and here in less than a week. But there is no need for concern, it works flawlessly.

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Originally posted by jwiese
I agree! I would LOVE a flip-top cover for my BVDx, and had planned on buying a re-visor.

I don't think though that it should be anchored in the springboard slot. I don't want to have to take off my case each time I want to put in a module, and would usually want to carry mine with a module in place and the flip cover.

Currently, I'm using the EB slipper and am very satisfied. The only problem is that I have never been able to sync in the cradle, but have since gotten a cable.

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Originally posted by dtgillis
sastian...

The design looks very promising. Can the springboard slot still be used with the clip? Are you on schedule to have the flip covers available before the end of the year?

TIA,
David

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Hmmmm.....

On the 2nd of December we had gone to register flip-clip.com (Flip-Clip being a registered trademark) to redirect people to Tactilis.com (product marketing) but I enterd a character wrong. so i though ill just do it tomorrow. When I returned for another attempt 2 days later, low and behold a Zivthan Dubrovsky had it registered. The same guy with the "flipcover." Not 24 hours later he posts to this thread. From what I can tell after going to his site, he doesn't have any product by that name. I just want the court of public opinoin's ruling on what they think his intentions are.

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Hello Sastian,

Please don't be so quick to judge. Over the past three months FlipCover.com has purchased many flipnames and flip-names in order to try to build a product name database for all its current and future products.

I'm sorry to tell you that flip-clip and flip-lid were amongst those in our ongoing product identity brainstorming. If you would like to arrange to have these names transfered over to you, then please email us at [email protected] and we'll be happy to help.

Again, good luck with your product. It'll be fun.

Z



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I am going with the flip lid

Sorry but I am sticking with the flip-lid because as far as I can tell you have to purchase some kind of altered springboard? And if major companies do not want your product in them, your outta luck.

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sastian and FlipCover,

Let's keep this thread focused. If there's going to be anything between your two companies, it must be handled outside of this forum. I believe you both have contact information on your sites... use it to contact each other directly.

For everyone else,

Don't let the thread digress beyond the original topic. While I am a big fan of the "court of public opinion", I don't believe this thread is the appropriate place for it.

If we can't all get along and play nicely, I'll have to take away all the toys and send everybody home...

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Re: I am going with the flip lid

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Originally posted by BrianX124
Sorry but I am sticking with the flip-lid because as far as I can tell you have to purchase some kind of altered springboard? And if major companies do not want your product in them, your outta luck.

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Flip-cover and Flip-lid

Kinda of confusing trying to determine to which product is which:

May I suggest referring to them as:
1. Tactilus Flip-lid or T's Flip-Lid
2. Z's Flip-Cover

Personally, I like the Tactilus Flip-Lid concept. It's built AROUND the springboard slot which allows the accommodation of different module sizes and functions. The T's Flip-Clip must stay pretty snug to enable the opening and closing forces applied to the lid.

With the Z's Flip-cover, from the pictures it appears that you are restricted to a standard size springboard module. I'm not sure how the hinge is attached to the springboard. I read from previous postings that it's glued to the top of the module. Well, that will put some limits to Z's concept besides the standard module only.
Consider:
1. the SoundGood with the controls on top
2. any other springboards with access on the top on the module,like modems.
3. if you switch springboards often
4. other non-standard size modules which sadly appears to be the trend with the recent module sizes
5. IF the hinge is glued, I personally don't like glueing anything to my investments. With the hinge being only as wide as the module, I worry about the stability and the resistance to torque.

I may be wrong about some of the problems above, but those are the issues I see with Z's concept by looking at the pictures and reading the his website. Please correct me if I'm wrong.



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I know this is off Visor-related subject, but have you guys seen the cool flip covers for the Palm V?

http://www.paralleldesign.com/products/main.html

[Edited by KennethAaron425 on 12-10-2000 at 02:50 PM]

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I wonder how many people just own Visor PDA'S with no SB modules like myself. I have several thid party software programs. I suspect that a substantial amount of people fall into this category. Personally, I favor the flip lid that will wrap all the way around to the back. When available I will be purchasing one that matches my Platinum. I can't believe Handspring sent these out with black covers.

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Just to add another post to this rather long topic...

Sastian, do you know when you expect to be taking paypal payments on the website? I can see the little spot for where the link'll be, but it's not hooked up just yet.

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I haven't received my product yet but I can tell you that so far Tactilis customer support is top notch. Can't wait until I get mine!

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I have read four pages and, either I'm blind, or no one has asked yet. Will the flip clip hold the cover up while the Visor is attached to the Stowaway Keyboard (Palm III does)? Or, will we have to remove the cover each time we attach to the keyboard?

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I asked this question earlier. Yes, it will hold the cover up. It supposedly works similarly to the way the Palm III covers work. I always liked that about my Palm III so I'm looking forward to it with this one. Although I am going to wait till the custom Visor covers are made before I order.

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Has anyone received their order?

This seems like a great product, but has anyone bought one and used it yet aside from the creator?

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LOL! Currently, no one (aside the from creator and several of the "beta-testing friends") has used it. We've posted that we would be begin shipping this week. However, UPS has scheduled our first "official" pick up for next Monday. (Although some are slipping out via manual delivery this week!) But, we are expecting that all orders placed by today will ship on or before Monday.

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Tequila: Thanks for response. Was your question about Stowaway compatability posed in a different forum? I searched this one. I saw your question, but it LOOKED like it referred to the lid's closed position. (Think you asked if it snapped or was held in the closed position)? Anyway, so I'm clear, need to know: the Visor flip-lid IS compatible with the Stowaway, in that, you don't have to REMOVE the flip lid while you're typing? In other words, when the Visor is in the Stowaway, will the flip lid remain open as you type? Thanks.

Sastien: SOmeone here asked you what the difference between the current Palm III lids and the soon-to-be released Visor-specific lids will be. (One difference, I think, was that the Visor-specific lid will have a "clear" option. But your answer compared your flip lid with a competitor's flipover lid. So, what ARE the differences between the current Palm III type lid and the lids you expect to make available soon specific to the Visor. Thanks everyone for your patience with me.