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Posted by dvIceT on 06-11-2001 02:10 AM:

Re: Only .PRC & .PDB?

quote:
Originally posted by Shakes


But I thought any doc file stored on the handheld is automatically a Palm-doc file?! Or does it work like the MEMOPAD files which are just plain text?

Does using the "pub <filename>" command allow one to upload an edited HTML file onto the server, and allowing others to view the file from their PC web-browsers, as well as Palm-based browsers?



Yeah, the "pub <filename>" command will allow you to upload an edited HTML file, but first you need to convert that HTML file, which is actually just plain text, into uncompressed DOC format. The DOC format was specially designed for the PalmOS to allow text documents to be encoded to allow them to be loaded into PalmOS handheld memory and read by DOC readers like CSpotRun, ZDoc, AportisDoc, etc.

Technical aspects aside, just download ZDoc(version m03, preferably), select "New Doc" from the File menu, name the file <something>.html, open <something>.html, and start coding your HTML. When you're done, start up LFtp and do "pub <something>.html" after you've logged in and navigated to the appropriate directory. The file should be viewable by PC and Palm web browsers alike, depending on their capabilities.


Posted by dvIceT on 06-11-2001 02:21 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ashmed
It seems as though the pub command just uploads the file as-is so if the file is a memo it is just a plain text file so it can be html as well.


Maybe your JPEG got bitten by something like the MemoPad's 4k barrier.

I imagine what you say is true in light of your successful experiment. The pub command probably invokes some magic to strip out Palm database header and formatting junk and just streams "pure" file content to the FTP server.


Posted by ashmed on 06-11-2001 02:40 AM:

I think it was trying to transfer in ASCII mode and jpeg's are binary so that may have been my problem.

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Posted by ifallis on 06-12-2001 03:39 PM:

Red face

Sorry to start a thread and disappear ... but that was my intention in a way!

Monday, in the midst of Disney's Animal Kingdom, I uploaded an update to:the New Tribes Mission web site

Using LFTP with Torpedo, you can export HTML to Memopad. There, you can see the file, but with the file name at the top, as in, in my case, "btext.htm"

When you use LFTP (OK, here's part that's cogent to the discussion here) you do NOT use "pub <filename>," but rather, "pubm <filename>"

Somehow (and I am not a programmer), LFTP is set up with Torpedo to use pubm to look in Memopad, interpret that first line as the file name, and upload the rest.

Perhaps that will be of help in posting JPEGs -- I'm very interested in that as well.


Posted by gbgood on 06-12-2001 04:19 PM:

This is such a cool thread!

Ashmed,
The 'jetsend' app SENDS your .jpgs to your visor by ir??

Does the app come with any/every HP digicam?

This is really something that I didn't know could be done. How fast/slow is it?

Does your hp uses smc or cf? This would help if someone didn't have a memplug or if the media was the opposite.

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Posted by ashmed on 06-13-2001 01:23 AM:

quote:

The 'jetsend' app SENDS your .jpgs to your visor by ir??

Does the app come with any/every HP digicam?

This is really something that I didn't know could be done. How fast/slow is it?

Does your hp uses smc or cf? This would help if someone didn't have a memplug or if the media was the opposite.


Yes it sends using the IR port using HP's own Jetsend protocol.

Doesn't come with anything. HP wrote it for palm os and i guess hardly posted it. I was lucky to find it in some obscure corner of the internet.

It takes about 30 seconds to send a 52k file, but you can't view the file on the handheld, although HP says that it can convert to fireviewer.(it crashes as it sends if you have this setting turned on)

I have the HP Photosmart 315. It uses CF. I've taken pictures and tried to copy them using my matchbookdrive and FAFileMover but for some reasing FAFileMover can't see the .jpg files so I'm waiting for MemplugCF.


Also, sometime this week (when finals are over) I'll begin work on a program that will upload files via FTP. I'm hoping for a user interface like that of WSFTP. When it's done it should be able to upload jpegs maybe even straight from a memplug? hehe...

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Posted by dvIceT on 06-13-2001 11:44 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ifallis
Using LFTP with Torpedo, you can export HTML to Memopad. There, you can see the file, but with the file name at the top, as in, in my case, "btext.htm"

When you use LFTP (OK, here's part that's cogent to the discussion here) you do NOT use "pub <filename>," but rather, "pubm <filename>"

Somehow (and I am not a programmer), LFTP is set up with Torpedo to use pubm to look in Memopad, interpret that first line as the file name, and upload the rest.

Perhaps that will be of help in posting JPEGs -- I'm very interested in that as well.



Not to belabor this point, but "pub <filename>" *is* the correct command to use when using a DOC editor like ZDoc to compose HTML.

I guess it's different with Torpedo though.


Posted by nurcombe on 06-13-2001 01:23 PM:

PalmScape

Is the version of PalmScape supplied with Torpedo a demo or pukka version?

I've already licensed PalmScape, but if it's a full version it's cheaper getting Torpedo with PalmScape ($12.50) than buying PalmScape directly ($29.95)!

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Posted by Shakes on 06-16-2001 07:30 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ashmed

Yes it sends using the IR port using HP's own Jetsend protocol.

Doesn't come with anything. HP wrote it for palm os and i guess hardly posted it. I was lucky to find it in some obscure corner of the internet.

It takes about 30 seconds to send a 52k file, but you can't view the file on the handheld, although HP says that it can convert to fireviewer.(it crashes as it sends if you have this setting turned on)



I too have a PhotoSmart printer. Unfortunately, the only way I can beam to the printer is with this "JetSend Protocol". Is there any way to beam documents from a PDA to the PhotoSmart printer?!

Also, where did you find the PalmOS program which allows beaming via JetSend?

Thanks!


Posted by ashmed on 06-17-2001 02:41 AM:

You can beam documents, it comes with a special version of all the built in apps including memopad(if my memory serves me) and when I first downloaded jetsend I tried sending something from memopad and it seemed to send a screenshot not the text. I didn't spend a lot of time figuring it out so I'm not sure right now.

I found the program on some far corner of teh internet. Is was on a foreign download site like tucows. Visorvillage has it on there's but the link was dead a few months ago(haven't checked recently). If you want, I could probably post it on my website for download or email to ya(of course without warranty). Also, HP doesn't know that they even made the program. I spent 45 min on a long distance call to HP customer service and the guy didn't even know that you could use jetsend outside of cameras and printers. He even denied that they made one for pocket os (the only pda version you can find info on from their website) and of course palm os.

Speaking of customer service, I got a call back from some company that HP pays to get info on how good their CS is. I took the survey(I NEVER take survey's over the phone) and gave him terrible scores, he didn't even try to get a supervisor!

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Posted by Shakes on 06-17-2001 03:52 AM:

Ashmed,

Thanks for the information on JetSend. Actually, if you wouldn't mind posting it for download, or let me know how I can contact you privately, I would appreciate it!

Have you tried the Palm OS version yourself? Does it work well?


Posted by ashmed on 06-17-2001 08:11 AM:

Ok, I'll post it sometime today and i'll put the link on here. I use the palm os version. Make sure that if you're sending images to the visor that you have the "view on device" image setting NOT checked, otherwise it won't send at all.

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Posted by Shakes on 06-17-2001 06:31 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ashmed
Ok, I'll post it sometime today and i'll put the link on here. I use the palm os version. Make sure that if you're sending images to the visor that you have the "view on device" image setting NOT checked, otherwise it won't send at all.


Thanks a lot. I appreciate it!

As for the "View on Device", do you mean if I'm trying to send images from a JetSend enabled camera, or the printer itself? Also, what program allows you to view straight JPEGs on the Visor? I've been reading that FireViewer allows that... Can you confirm?

Thanks again!


Posted by ashmed on 06-17-2001 08:47 PM:

Supposedly the view on device feature is supposed to convert the jpegs to fireviewer format. But it doesnt seem to work at all. I guess cuz the readme says it ONLY supports palm os version 3.3. Not 3.1 or 3.5 .. but you can still send jpegs.

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Posted by ashmed on 06-17-2001 09:07 PM:

Cool

I uploaded the file. Click here .. Enjoy

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Posted by Shakes on 06-18-2001 12:27 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ashmed
Supposedly the view on device feature is supposed to convert the jpegs to fireviewer format. But it doesnt seem to work at all. I guess cuz the readme says it ONLY supports palm os version 3.3. Not 3.1 or 3.5 .. but you can still send jpegs.


Do you mean that it's possible to send pictures from the Visor to the printer? If I had EyeModule or FireViewer images, is it possible to print them out? If so, how do you go about doing it, since there is no "print" option in either program.

Btw, thanks for the link! Appreciate it!


Posted by tedx on 06-19-2001 01:10 AM:

Can I upload files using IrDa via my digital phone?


Posted by ashmed on 06-19-2001 05:51 AM:

quote:
Do you mean that it's possible to send pictures from the Visor to the printer? If I had EyeModule or FireViewer images, is it possible to print them out? If so, how do you go about doing it, since there is no "print" option in either program.


To print stuff, I think you have to use the hack that is included in the .zip file. If you read the readme, it should say exactly how to print. I don't think you can print through fireviewer. You can only print through the modified versions of each program such as JSMemo and JSDatebook which are included in the JetSend package.

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Posted by SassKwatch on 06-26-2001 04:05 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by ashmed
I uploaded the file. Click here .. Enjoy


You may want to take a look at this link.

Methinks HP may not be all that fond of you making your copy of JetSend available for public dl.

Russ


Posted by ashmed on 06-26-2001 07:13 PM:

Oh well I guess.. It's no longer on my webserver anyways.. I've seen that page before. It's a bummer that a company just stops using something like JetSend

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