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Posted by brijoco on 12-01-2000 03:11 PM:

The Countdown to Christmas contest is a cool idea ...
But I can't find anything that says how we become ELIGIBLE to actually win.
From the "official rules" page:
"Winners will be selected in a random drawing from among all eligible entries submitted..."
But what constitutes an ELIGIBLE entry?
My guess is that we answer a bunch of questions between now (Dec. 1) and then (Dec. 25). But then what?
Are the 61 highest-scoring registered users put in a hat? Then those folks are chosen at random and awarded prizes?
That's the most fair thing I can think of.

Anyone else have any ideas (including moderators)?

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Posted by PDAENVY on 12-01-2000 03:19 PM:

From the news page:

quote:
The more unique questions you answer correctly, the higher your chances of winning a prize.


My guess is everyone who gets at least one right gets their name put in a 'hat' once for every correct answer.

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Posted by marcus on 12-01-2000 03:55 PM:

PDAENVY is correct - everyone who answers at least one question right gets their name put in the 'hat'.

However, the more questions you answer correctly, the more times your name is dropped into the hat, increasing your chances of winning.

For example:

Let's say there are 10,000 entries in the contest and you answered each question correctly.

Your chances of winning a prize, and correct me if wrong here, it has been a while since intro to stats, is (24/10,000)(61)= 14.64%. Each drawing is independent of the previous one, ie your name is put back in the 'hat', so no reduction of probability should occur.

A reader who only answered one question correctly would only have a .61% (1/10,0000)(61) chance of winning an item.

So your odds would be roughly 2400% better. Fair enough

Speaking of the contest, what do you think of our impressive variety and amount of prizes?

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Posted by Felipe on 12-01-2000 04:03 PM:

Its like the NBA lottery. The more questions you answer correctly the more balls you have in the pot.

But to answer you question on who wins: ME ME ME. :-)

Marcus can you win more than one prize?

I think the limit should be 2 prizes (if you haven't already come up with a limit), but ...

Lets say a person gets picked 3 times to win a prize, that person should be contacted to see which 2 he or she wants. The other prize then gets to be won by someone else. MHO.



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Posted by brijoco on 12-01-2000 04:15 PM:

Thanks for clearing things up, Marcus.
And your math makes sense, although it's also been a while since I've had a stats course.
I do like the variety of prizes available - of course, some are better than others!
Felipe - good point about limiting winners to two prizes. I mean, statistically speaking, it's possible for one lucky winner to walk away with 25 prizes (assuming he/she gets every answer right).
And unless I'm the big winner, I'm gonna demand a recount. And if I'm still not declared the winner, we're going to the Supreme Court!

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Posted by mensachicken on 12-01-2000 04:50 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by marcus
Speaking of the contest, what do you think of our impressive variety and amount of prizes?


Marcus,

Excellent selection of prizes! Woohoo! My only complaint is, based on today's question anyway, the answers are too easy. Why give us a link directly to the answer? Make people work for it. Otherwise, I believe, you're gonna end up with perfect answers every day from every entrant... which is the same as putting each of our names int the hat once, no?

Thanks,

mc.


Posted by PDAENVY on 12-01-2000 04:55 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by marcus
Speaking of the contest, what do you think of our impressive variety and amount of prizes?


I think it's great that:
- you're offering 60 prizes.

- 5 are "big ticket" items (MSRP > $145 US)

- there are at least 9 other $50-$144 items

- there are multiple prizes from the same vendor, including
software an accessories.

In summary: Cool!

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Posted by marcus on 12-01-2000 05:39 PM:

quote:

My only complaint is, based on today's question anyway, the answers are too easy.



It will get harder with time Easy questions for the first couple of days to attract readers to the contest.

quote:

Statistically speaking, it's possible for one lucky winner to walk away with 25 prizes.



More mathematically possible than statistically, since statistics should even the spread out. Because of your suggestions, we added the following to the rules:

Max two prizes per winner; winner may select which two prizes from all prizes winner was selected for.

Thanks,

Marcus

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Posted by jeff318 on 12-02-2000 12:07 AM:

does
20. Any Handspring Case
Choose any case from Handspring's wide variety of cases. With so many choices, it's easy to personalize your Visor to reflect your own unique style.

Prize provided by: Handspring
include custom cases?

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Posted by MarkEagle on 12-02-2000 12:37 AM:

Are the moderators eligible???

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Posted by saxmatt on 12-02-2000 06:21 PM:

Unhappy trouble with contest

After I answered the question I accidently entered the wrong password and was taken to the 'fix your password' page. Then, after I put in the correct password, it said that my answer of "" had been submited. When I tried to fix it I was told to only vote once. I know there is no paper evidence, no pregnant or hanging chads, but can my entry still count?? It could be the one that wins me a Minijam


Posted by homer on 12-02-2000 06:41 PM:

I'd just like to publicly thank all of the gift sponsors. It's nice to see companies support a site like this.

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Posted by PePe on 12-02-2000 09:54 PM:

Unhappy Nice contest, but...

Cool contest, but I can't enter because I live in Europe.
Next year could you ask the sponsors to include shipping to the rest of the world (Europe, Asia, Australia etc.). Not all visor-owners live in the States. Besides, we celebrate christmas too :-)

But to all who can enter: good luck!


Posted by MIKE STH on 12-02-2000 10:29 PM:

I agree with HOMER...this a really nice gesture on the part of the sponsors AND VC. Thanks for making Christmas that much better!

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Posted by lennonhead on 12-03-2000 03:00 PM:

The number of discussion users seems to be growing faster than usual. I wonder if the new people will actually post, or if they just want the prizes.

I think it is a very nice thing to do too, thanks!

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Posted by MHCohn on 12-04-2000 07:21 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by mensachicken
[QUOTE][i]My only complaint is, based on today's question anyway, the answers are too easy. Why give us a link directly to the answer? Make people work for it.



Mensa,

I ~think~ you may be missing the point of the contest. I doubt it's to show the prize donors which of us are the most fanatic Visorphiles (that's not a database)Or which of us have memorized the most Visor trivia. I would suspect that a large part of the reason for having provided the prizes (and/or other incentives to VC) was to generate traffic and attention to the content of their websites. Especially from those of us who may not have previously investigated their product.

Personally I think it's a great (and very fair) marketing idea and salute whoever came up with it.

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Posted by ToolkiT on 12-06-2000 05:47 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by MarkEagle
Are the moderators eligible???


Off course we are!! we are no employees of VC (at least I haven't seen a paycheck yet...)
So why not, we have no influence on the contest at all...

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Posted by zieak on 12-11-2000 06:43 PM:

Question

Kudos concerning the contest - great assortment of prizes! It worked for me. I used to just lurk but I'm posting (a little) now. I'm checking out sites for products I would have never looked at...

One problem though. I logged in last night and went to enter the contest and it had already changed to today's question. What time zone do they change at? The contest ends on the 24th at midnight right? (Would that be on Hawaii's time?)

Thanks again for the contest!

-misssing out on contests, free shipping, and daylight in Alaska!


Posted by JHromadka on 12-11-2000 11:58 PM:

Arrow

VC is based in Gainesville, so all times are EST. I'll tell Marcus to reflect this in the rules.

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Posted by timkelly on 12-12-2000 12:37 AM:

Talking

Gainesville? Can we trust you guys to count these entries properly?

Just kidding. It's a great contest, great prizes and, yes, it's taken me to websites and products I might not ordinarily investigate.

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