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Posted by freitasm on 12-20-2001 08:11 PM:

MY Visorphone is gone (or will be)...

FWIMC, just my current status...

I had a VP with a Prism. Too big, heavy (not, if compared to an IPAQ with the sleeve and wireless card ).

So, just ordered a Red-M Bluetooth module from Palmgear, and bought an Ericsson T39m with GPRS and Bluetooth. The Ericsson is tiny!

So, I'll be able to browse, check e-mails etc while away, without cable or having to point devices to use IR...

Also, bought a USB Bluetooth card, to connect to my desktop. This way I can share my cable connection while at home.

I'll post later to check if all this worked together

Ciao!


Posted by OrionNE on 12-20-2001 08:34 PM:

Exclamation wireless envy

You have just given me wireless envy....

Anyone know of a Bluetooth CDMA phone? I live in a part of the USA that has no GSM providers.


Posted by eigenwave on 12-20-2001 10:07 PM:

Re: MY Visorphone is gone (or will be)...

quote:
Originally posted by freitasm
FWIMC, just my current status...

I had a VP with a Prism. Too big, heavy (not, if compared to an IPAQ with the sleeve and wireless card ).

So, just ordered a Red-M Bluetooth module from Palmgear, and bought an Ericsson T39m with GPRS and Bluetooth. The Ericsson is tiny!

So, I'll be able to browse, check e-mails etc while away, without cable or having to point devices to use IR...

Also, bought a USB Bluetooth card, to connect to my desktop. This way I can share my cable connection while at home.

I'll post later to check if all this worked together

Ciao!



While the VP and Platinum combination reduces the gadget-carrying to only one unit, it is bulky. I really don't want to carry two devices. However, I'd be interested in what your experience would be by going bluetooth.

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Posted by dredhead on 12-22-2001 05:48 AM:

Re: Re: MY Visorphone is gone (or will be)...

quote:
Originally posted by eigenwave


While the VP and Platinum combination reduces the gadget-carrying to only one unit, it is bulky. I really don't want to carry two devices. However, I'd be interested in what your experience would be by going bluetooth.



I am absolutely convinced I will be going the bluetooth route as soon as GPRS becomes more reliable - and a wee bit cheaper. I will miss having the address book as a phone dialer, but the bulk will not be missed at all.

Funny I'm complaining about bulk, when I used to carry around a Motorola brick phone everywhere I went.

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Posted by freitasm on 12-22-2001 11:28 AM:

I'm currently using my GPRS connection over IR... But i'm tracking UPS and see my Bluetooth module is just leaving US today!

Gonna be good


Posted by yardie on 12-23-2001 08:19 AM:

Arrow GPRS way too expensive

GPRS is waaaaaaaaaaay too expensive for the average consumer 9as i mentioned in a post a couple weeks back). My local cell phone company is charging 15 cents CAD abou 10 cents U.S a kilobyte for GPRS usage! That is ludicrous. The average email is about 5 kb or so.


Posted by freitasm on 12-23-2001 09:27 PM:

Vodafone New Zealand charges US$ 2.5 / Mb. And prices decrease if you pay for more...


Posted by yardie on 12-25-2001 10:05 AM:

Unhappy Wow

Wow these prices are nice. I wonder when they will have those prices up here in Canada? Is GPRS a new technology in NZ?


Posted by freitasm on 12-25-2001 10:49 PM:

Vodafone NZ has GPRS for six months now... They're good prices, really


Posted by freitasm on 12-29-2001 04:49 AM:

Smile Success!

Hi!

This is the update...

Bought the Red-M Blade Bluetooth Springboard from Palmgear. From USA to New Zealand in just over seven days, including Xmas and Customs!

Bought the TDK Bluetooth USB adaptor from PrimateSystems. Again, only seven days! Both Bluetooth things arrived in New Zealand the very same day

Bought an Ericsson T39m, direct from Vodafone New Zealand.

Prism / Desktop:
---------------------

Hotsync worked straight away, no problems at all!

The TDK USB Bluetooth supports LAN Access, but the Red-M requires PPP, which I can not provide with Win2k (not yet).

What did I do? Well, downloaded MochaPPP, assigned it to one Virtual Serial Port provided by the TDK Bluetooth software.

On the Prism, created a new connection called Mocha, using the Bluetooth Serial connection to a server (my desktop).

Hit the CONNECT button and in record time it was working!

Because I live in a two story house, I bought a USB repeater cable (five metres) and ran it to the top of the stairs.

Now, I can browse the internet using my Prism, from anywhere in the house!

Prism Ericsson Mobile / GPRS:
-------------------------------------

I'm using the same connection I had for IR to mobile, now using Bluetooth Dial UP. The Dial Up service is provided by my Ericsson, so I can connect to the internet using GPRS while away from home.

Worked ok, but I'm not impressed with this - I like the home solution better

The Red-M Blade card:
----------------------------

Good product, worked ok, the builtin software includes PrimateSystem's Monkey Messenger for SMS via Bluetooth (great stuff!), Mobimate's PhoneMate, and Eudora Internet Suite (good for e-mail, but I'm using Blazer 2.0 for browsing).

About PhoneMate: perhaps because I tried it before, the new one was "Unregistered" (Prefs db?). Anyway, I contacted MobiMate, and the support people helped with this one. I'll use it!

Some other stuff on the CD, including Mobimate's WorldMate and Astraware Biplane Ace (you can play against another Bluetooth user!) I still have to go thru it!

Hope you guys like this update.

I'll write more later, after testing more!

Ciao,

Mauricio


Posted by yardie on 01-01-2002 08:37 AM:

Arrow Hey Freitasm

Hey Freitasm aka Mauricio (cool name) Thanks for the update. I have a question for you though. How does the phonemate dialler thing work. Can you just duial the number from the Visor and the t39 phone automatically dials out? What if you have a headset for the T39 -- couild you just dial from the Visor and everything is connected automatically? Let me know!


Posted by freitasm on 01-01-2002 10:33 AM:

Phonemate has the Dial and SMS buttons... You hit the Dial and the T39 will dial out... You can hung up in two ways: on the phone itself, or using the Hung up button on PhoneMate. Very cool...

I like PhoneMate for the dial and easy to find names... MonkeyMessenger is better for it's a SMS application - send and retrieves from the T39!

Haven't got the headset yet (still holiday here in NZ, and they're sold out until Friday in this region!). Also, they're quite a pricey item: NZD 399 (USD 165). I'll try it soon, though

Thanks for the comment about my name. I live in New Zealand, but I'm from Brazil...

Ciao!


Posted by Xzaver on 01-10-2002 05:15 AM:

Talking freitasm



Hello freitasm


Can you switch between Devices "on the fly" ?

Example: Can you set up different profiles for different devices


Simulation: At work (or wherever) you have your RedMBlade Connected to your Phone.

As soon as you get home , you only need to switch "Profiles" to connect to your desktop ?


I hope you understand what I'm talking about.


Regards,
~X~

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Posted by freitasm on 01-10-2002 07:21 AM:

Re: freitasm

quote:
Originally posted by Xzaver


Hello freitasm


Can you switch between Devices "on the fly" ?

Example: Can you set up different profiles for different devices


Simulation: At work (or wherever) you have your RedMBlade Connected to your Phone.

As soon as you get home , you only need to switch "Profiles" to connect to your desktop ?


I hope you understand what the fu[s]c[/s]k I'm talking about. [PLANED TO EDIT]


Regards,
~X~



Yep...You're not always connected, only while using services - this is valid if using the headset, the desktop, the Visor or the phone.

You can pair the device with as many other devices you want. Then you move each device into different categories, like "Dial up/LAN Access/Serial". These are the client services supported on the Visor.

I have Dial up client pointing to my mobile. The Serial points to my desktop, so does the LAN Access.

When I want to use GPRS or dial up, I use a Network entry with BT Dialup. When I hit the Connect button it'll establish communication with my mobile.

When I want to use my cable modem connection, I point to a Network entry with BT Serial profile, which connects to my desktop, Serial service. MochaPPP is listening on the virtual COM, and I have a connection!

The LAN Access, according to the Bluetooth specs, supports only PPP over Ethernet. So, you can use a Bluetootn LAN Access point ($$$$) or download and install a PPP over Ethernet driver for Windows/Unix, and use a virtual Ethernet Adapter. On the Visor create a network entry to BT LAN Access, and connect!

In each category you can choose a default device, or -PROMPT-, this way the Visor will ask which paired device to use.

You can create your categories, like Work, and assign a device - let's say a LAN Access in your office. As soon you hit the office, connect and remain connected!

Too complicated? Hope not


Posted by freitasm on 01-15-2002 12:09 AM:

Re: Success!

quote:
Originally posted by freitasm
Hi!

Prism / Desktop:
---------------------

Hotsync worked straight away, no problems at all!

The TDK USB Bluetooth supports LAN Access, but the Red-M requires PPP, which I can not provide with Win2k (not yet).

What did I do? Well, downloaded MochaPPP, assigned it to one Virtual Serial Port provided by the TDK Bluetooth software.

On the Prism, created a new connection called Mocha, using the Bluetooth Serial connection to a server (my desktop).

Hit the CONNECT button and in record time it was working!

Because I live in a two story house, I bought a USB repeater cable (five metres) and ran it to the top of the stairs.

Now, I can browse the internet using my Prism, from anywhere in the house!




Well, I've found out that PPP is part of the Bluetooth LAN Access stack. Red-M support told me there's a bug in their implementation, that does not allow the PPP to work with my TDK USB Bluetooth. I found a workaround, installing a PPPoE (PPP over Ethernet) driver, but I'm waiting for the updated firmware from Red-M, and I'll try again.

In the meantime, MochaPPP over Bluetooth Virtual Serial works well...


Posted by Xzaver on 01-15-2002 03:46 PM:

LMAO

Geeez What A Shrudi lol






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Posted by freitasm on 01-15-2002 08:14 PM:

Xzaver

If you don't wanna know about Bluetooth, wireless, networking, don't bother reading this thread, or don't post your comments.


Posted by Xzaver on 01-15-2002 08:40 PM:

I was not trying to be Derogatory



I wasn't trying to make a negative remark against you.
:-/ , just the oposite.

Regards,
~X~


Posted by freitasm on 01-15-2002 11:31 PM:

Ok, thanks then... The LMAO put me en garde...


Posted by keithwhitney on 01-23-2002 05:32 PM:

>The TDK USB Bluetooth supports LAN Access, but the Red-M requires PPP,
>which I can not provide with Win2k (not yet).
>
>What did I do? Well, downloaded MochaPPP, assigned it to one Virtual
>Serial Port provided by the TDK Bluetooth software.
>
>On the Prism, created a new connection called Mocha, using the
>Bluetooth Serial connection to a server (my desktop).
>
>Hit the CONNECT button and in record time it was working!
>
>Because I live in a two story house, I bought a USB repeater cable
>(five metres) and ran it to the top of the stairs.
>
>Now, I can browse the internet using my Prism, from anywhere in the
>house!

I have MochaPPP and 3COM Bluetooth Connection Manager running on a PC with the 3COM PCMCIA Bluetooth card. Blade connects via Bt Serial Host, but no joy for TCP/IP apps - Blazer, EudoraWeb, Eudora, etc.

Can you think of anything I'm missing?

TIA,
Keith


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