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Posted by mxgian on 01-17-2001 01:37 AM:

Has anyone found a browser that supports https AND supports frames well? Palmscape doesn't support https (yet i think) but does support frames, the yadayada browser supports https but no frame support, blazer doesn't do frames well (https? i can't remember), avantgo is ok with frames but I can't get https to work is there a trick?

TIA.

Minh


Posted by swendor on 01-17-2001 05:09 AM:

I don't understand why you are not able to get secured pages or frames on YadaBrowse when I am able to get them just fine. When you come across a site that has frames YB will alert you to this fact with the message:

"This page has frames. Click on the links to access the individual frames."

Listed below that statement are all the component frames that make up the page, for example: header.html, or body. Then of course you would click on the links. I usually find that body gets to the heart of the web page.

My profile has the following settings and I have no problems:

Cache SSL pages: YES
Accept all Cookies: YES
Unroll Table: YES
Images: BIG

[Edited by swendor on 01-17-2001 at 12:23 AM]


Posted by Brooklyn on 01-17-2001 12:09 PM:

Smile

AvantGo's Secure connection (SSL add-on) Instructions http://avantgo.com/help/palmhelp/secure/index.html
Hope This Helps.


[Edited by Brooklyn on 01-17-2001 at 07:12 AM]


Posted by mxgian on 01-19-2001 03:36 AM:

swendor.

that to me is NOT frames support, i want the frames to be shown, not a screen telling me that i need to click something else to load the frame!! this gets really annoying if say you have 3 frames, and the site didn't label the frames well (like page1.html page2.html etc).


Posted by swendor on 01-19-2001 05:40 AM:

Sorry, that was the best I could do. Are there that many sites you visit that have frames? Could you just bookmark the body of the site you want to access? I don't know if that's possible.

Alot of the times I find that the left and the top portions of a framed web page have to do with navigation and advertisements and not the main part, the true content, of the page.

Besides are you sure you really want a framed web page displayed on a screen as small as our devices? I think you would have to do a lot of left-to-right scrolling in that case. I could be wrong. How does Palmscape handle frames?

It seems to me that if you want BOTH the best solution right now is YadaBrowse unless you use two browsers. And that to me seems more annoying than a screen telling me that I need click something else to load the frame.

[Edited by swendor on 01-19-2001 at 12:43 AM]


Posted by mxgian on 01-20-2001 01:10 AM:

swendor,

that just doesn't work for me, i check my company mail via the web and the top and left frames are navigation
which is why i need to see them! it's impossible to read
an email then go back and go to another frame to pick a new
one and then go back to the frame with the body, there are a lot of extra clicks this way!!

palmscape handles frames like a regular browser, i don't mind the scrolling if it works.

unfortunately avantgo frame support is a little iffy for me, i guess i have to wait for palmscape final (hopefully soon to work out for me)

Minh


Posted by Marcy Fields on 01-22-2001 09:14 PM:

Question

So, although you have some problems with it, you check your corporate e-mail via the web? I too have this option using microsoft exchange, but I can't get into the log-in box on the web site. I see the line to enter my user name, and do- then I don't get the next box to enter my password. I've been using proxiweb.

Marcy


Posted by mxgian on 01-23-2001 02:49 PM:

marcy,

we don't use microsoft so i can't comment on that, we do use https so I have to have that. the yy browser works, but it's very clunky, I think the frames support in palmscape is the best of all the browsers but i'm still waiting for https support.


Posted by zelchenko on 01-23-2001 06:45 PM:

Arrow non-Yada browser that supports frames?

So far nobody has mentioned any browser other than YadaYada that properly supports frames. I have tried all the others, they do not (as far as I have been able to determine). What gives?


Posted by mxgian on 01-24-2001 01:51 AM:

zelchenko,

actually the YY browser does not support frames it just understands frames (and tells you to pick on of them to view, so you can only view one frame at a time) palmscape on the other hand shows you the pages like a regular browser would all at once. i've tried all of them but i can remember which ones do and dont now, i know palmscape works for me most of the time (frames wise, still waiting for https).

Minh


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