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Posted by dirwin on 11-23-2001 12:38 AM:

IR access for Nokia 3360

Hi,
I recently got a Nokia 3360 cell phone with AT&T service. I'm wondering if I can connect its IR port to the IR of my Visor Deluxe. I know that OS 3.1 sucks for IR capabilities. I have BeamSync, and my Visor will sync with my dad's laptop, or any other computer with an IR port. However, I can't get it to talk to the phone. Will my Visor, or any Visor work via IR with this phone?

Thanks is advance for your help.

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Posted by nwhitfield on 11-23-2001 11:05 AM:

Re: IR access for Nokia 3360

quote:
Originally posted by dirwin
I'm wondering if I can connect its IR port to the IR of my Visor Deluxe. I know that OS 3.1 sucks for IR capabilities. I have BeamSync

I've not tried BeamSync, but you can certainly make a Deluxe talk to a proper IR modem via IrLink. That said, there are situations where OS 3.1's TCP stack seems to be lost in a world of its own, at least as far as keeping up a conversation with the IR port goes. The upshot of that is that some programs end up losing the connection, because the Visor doesn't talk to the phone to keep it up. Main offenders that I've found are AvantGo Connect, Eudora and Eudora Web. The first version of Blazer did it too - I never even got to sign on with it!

But Blazer 2, ProxiMail, MultiMail III, ICQ, and PalmVNC certainly all behave well via IR on OS 3.1.

As for whether it will work with the 3360 - if the modem responds to standard AT commands, which most of the modems in Nokia phones do, then it should work. But you'll also need to make sure you have made whatever arrangements are necessary with the cellular carrier to have data enabled.

Nigel.

Posted by Toby on 11-24-2001 07:59 PM:

Nigel offered you some good advice. The only thing that I'd add is pretty basic. Have you turned IR reception on the phone on? It's not on by default due to potential for battery drain. Menu-9 will get you to the option to turn it on. If there's no contact after two minutes, it'll shut IR off again.

Posted by lobo_pac on 12-05-2001 02:18 AM:

Hi--more questions than answers......

First...I am very interested in a phone from AT&T that will allow me to do some very simple browsing using my VDX. The 3360 was an option when I saw it had IR capabilities. A friend has one and I was able to beam an addess card from the VDX directly into the phone with IR activated (by the way....only way I could find to deactivate it was to turn off the phone. That gave me some hope that maybe the phone will suffice as a wireless modem.

As far as IR link...I have used it to sync with my laptop via IR. Worked wonderfully for the trial period and then I stopped using it. No real need for me, but it did eliminate the need for a cradle. Kinda cool.

On browsing Nokia's site, I did find some downloads for the 3360 including a wireless modem driver and a pc connectivity suite.

http://www.nokiausa.com/phones/down...1,4507,,00.html

However, since I don't actually have a phone, I'm not able to experiment around with it. Sales reps from AT&T local stores are less than knowledgeable with these issues. I have yet to read the .pdf manual from nokia so maybe there's some insight in there.

Is anyone aware if AT&T will allow data transmissions through any of their phones....other than fax data? Different technology I believe.

Can anyone be specific on how to set up the 3360 to connect as a wireless modem? I am not fully aware what AT (sic) protocols are exactly. Is that something I need to contact AT&T for....my ISP....or are there other ways. Thanks for the help.

Also....I may ask some of my questions in a new thread as they are hidden in a long post. If any new info, I'll make a remark in this thread.

Thanks.

Travis

Posted by nwhitfield on 12-05-2001 11:57 AM:

If the phone supports the AT command set, then you don't need to do much in the way of setting it up at all.

You install IRLink on your Visor. Select 'Redirect cradle' on its main screen, tap the 'Mixed' button and at the bottom of the next screen, set the Network option to IrDA 1.0.

Make sure you have the correct settings in the Visor Network preferences for your ISP - dialup number, username, etc.

Then press Menu followed by 9 on the Nokia phone, put it next to the Visor and start a network app, like Blazer.

That's it. 'AT' refers to the standard modem commands that the Visor sends. The phone will react to those and dial a connection for you.

BUT.... depending on your carrier, you may need to arrange data service from them. That's something you'll have to find out for yourself.

Nigel.

Posted by LMidnight on 12-05-2001 01:06 PM:

dirwin,

this page sounds like it may help you out.

Posted by lobo_pac on 12-07-2001 08:21 AM:

anyone know if at&t will allow such data connections? it seems as if the phone will allow it pretty easily, it's at&t i'm worried about.

someone please inform me if they're successful using the VDX, nokia 3360 and at&t. i don't actually have the phone yet.....but if it is feasible, i'll be buying it in a second.

one more resource to check out...... http://www.mywirelesspalm.com

travis

Posted by lobo_pac on 12-11-2001 12:04 PM:

Maybe no hope

maybe it's not possible to link the 3360 with IR and AT&T. in the following page, click the "Nokia 3360 Help" link for a discussion.

http://mywirelesspalm.community.eve...ClientID=368006

If anyone got it to work, let me know.

Travis

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