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Posted by Brooklyn on 12-15-2000 09:33 PM:

Question

Does anybody know if you can use a different service provider using a Minstrel S� Wireless Modem from Yada Yada? I�m getting pretty good service from Yada Yada but I was just curious to know if its possible.

Posted by gadgetguru on 12-16-2000 12:17 PM:

So far it can be used on OmniSky and GoAmerica in addition to Yada Yada. I'm sure you would have to get their software to load on it.

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Posted by Brooklyn on 12-16-2000 04:53 PM:

Thanks for the info Rick.

Posted by Brooklyn on 12-30-2000 04:17 PM:

Angry

Out off curiosity I called Omnisky to find out if I can use their service with a Minstrel S modem I purchased from Yada Yada. The Omnisky rep said this was impossible due to the fact that you cannot delete the Yada software on the modem because its write protected and you can't prevent yada's software from loading when you insert the modem. He suggested buying a modem from Omnisky. It seems to be true that I can�t delete the Yada software that�s came loaded already on the modem when I purchased it. But I hate to think that if we start getting crappy service from our service provider� that we�ll be stuck with them unless we buy another modem.

Posted by dredhead on 12-30-2000 05:51 PM:

Red face

quote:
Originally posted by Brooklyn
Out off curiosity I called Omnisky to find out if I can use their service with a Minstrel S modem I purchased from Yada Yada. The Omnisky rep said this was impossible due to the fact that you cannot delete the Yada software on the modem because its write protected and you can't prevent yada's software from loading when you insert the modem. He suggested buying a modem from Omnisky. It seems to be true that I can�t delete the Yada software that�s came loaded already on the modem when I purchased it.


The only software pre-loaded onto mine were Eudora and Eudora Web. OmniSky us most likely BSing us. All they really need to provide is the connection. To do that, you just need to be given the same info you'd get from ANY ISP: username, password, etcetera... as well as the static IP address and service provider specific network info. All that can be configured using just the Novatel software provided with the modem.

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Posted by MarkEagle on 12-30-2000 06:27 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by dredhead
The only software pre-loaded onto mine were Eudora and Eudora Web.


There should also be something called CardWelcome. That is the app that auto-runs when the module is inserted (all Springboard modules have this on them). It does all the initialization, etc, and most likely contains the "proprietary" stuff from the particular service provider.

If the CardWelcome app is "read-only" on the module (as I suspect it would be since the module is, for all intents and purposes, useless without it), then OmniSky's response to Brooklyn is probably accurate.

I also think that a read-only CardWelcome does not show up in FileMover so you may not even see it.

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Posted by mxgian on 12-31-2000 12:09 AM:

OSKY BS?

I think omnisky is wrong, the only software on the modem that matters is the minstrel program, you can go into that program and delete all the network settings, and thus make your modem useless. So you should be able to set it to another provider. I know of someone that was an omnisky beta tester and is now using verizon wireless. At some point I will most likely dump yadayada for a smaller plan from verizon or at&t.

Posted by dpdamour on 01-01-2001 06:32 AM:

The OmniSky module has the following apps:


Some are obviously OmniSky apps, but the others? I would guess that the other services have similiar apps loaded into the Minstrel-S' that they provide their customers.

To get a "bare bones" Minstrel-S you would probably have to buy it directly from Novatel Wireless. That would mean paying full price for the module. Even then, when you signed up for a new service you would have to load THEIR versions of the apps listed above.

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Posted by chrisfoster on 01-02-2001 01:00 AM:

The Yada Yada comes preinstalled with 4 big programs :
Yada, a replacement app launcher which crashs a lot and is too slow for my tastes,.
Yada Broswer, which is yet another version of ProxiWeb/Broswe-it, which is also too slow and crashs to much for my tastes (compared with Blazer).
Email: a Yada Yada version of One-Touch Mail (I think), which is (i think) better then Multi-Mail Pro

There is also the typical subjects for any Minstel modem :Minstrel (a status/config program) and Power Switch (a power switch for the modem)

Then there's the typical Springboard apps -> Card Welcome (called YadaCW in the app launcher) and File Move.

You can transfer any program from the Minstrel to the Visor, including YadaCW. You can't delete YadaCW from the launcher, even if it's in the RAM of the Visor. File Mover, however, will happly delete it from the RAM. (I didn't try it on the Minstrel)

I moved a copy of the Email program to the RAM because I like it so much, so I can use it with my thinmodem.

Posted by dredhead on 01-02-2001 05:08 AM:

Re: OSKY BS?

quote:
Originally posted by mxgian
I think omnisky is wrong, the only software on the modem that matters is the minstrel program, you can go into that program and delete all the network settings, and thus make your modem useless. So you should be able to set it to another provider. I know of someone that was an omnisky beta tester and is now using verizon wireless. At some point I will most likely dump yadayada for a smaller plan from verizon or at&t.


Have you looked at the smaller plans from AT&T or verizon? If you do any kind of traveling, you'll get reamed with the six-cent-per-minute billing outside of their very small in-network area. AT&T's prices, from what I've seen, don't even come close. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place?

As much as I complain about YYs customer service and their one-horse operation, I'll stick with them as long as no-one else offers a $29.95 unlimited package, or until they go broke.

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Posted by mxgian on 01-02-2001 02:34 PM:

Re: Re: OSKY BS?

quote:
Originally posted by dredhead
[QUOTE]Originally posted by mxgian

Have you looked at the smaller plans from AT&T or verizon? If you do any kind of traveling, you'll get reamed with the six-cent-per-minute billing outside of their very small in-network area. AT&T's prices, from what I've seen, don't even come close. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place?

As much as I complain about YYs customer service and their one-horse operation, I'll stick with them as long as no-one else offers a $29.95 unlimited package, or until they go broke.


Ahh but there's the thing, I only signed up for the six month deal (and paid 160 for the modem). I'm guessing that everyone that got the 1 year deal free modem is locked in at 40 for the year. While I doubt YadaYada would reduce their prices (and thereby make a lot of people upset) I do think that someone else will provide unlimited service for less than $40 a month and hopefully soon. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
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