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Posted by septimus on 02-27-2002 01:53 PM:

US SMS: Maturing & bearing Fruit

Looks like Cingulair, AT&T, and Voicestream, at least, are offering full SMS interoperability.

http://news.com.com/2100-1033-843900.html

I tried sending an SMS to my mom (on verizon--I'm on Voicestream) the other day. it may have worked--she got it, but couldn't read anything but the phone number (i.e. she got it, it worked, she doesn't know how to use her phone or all she got was my return number)

I didn't realize how much I would love SMS. I had thought it was kinda foo foo (*no relation*), but now I'm doing all I can to get people to communicate with me via text when it will suffice. I much prefer a SMS I can read in class to a voicemail alert I have to use minutes to check and have to have the time and privacy to do so.

and on the other side, it's just as fun/useful. it's nice to know you can get a message across despite being unable to actually speak to a person. Email is good for that, but SMS gives you the satisfaction of getting the message to the person instead of the account.

...anyway, just wondering what other folks in the US think of SMS & whether or not it will finally take hold here.

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Posted by Toby on 02-27-2002 02:51 PM:

Re: US SMS: Maturing & bearing Fruit

quote:
Originally posted by dietrichbohn
[...] ...anyway, just wondering what other folks in the US think of SMS & whether or not it will finally take hold here.

My only complaint about my SMS service is that I don't have email gateway services (it's mobile to mobile or internet to mobile only). Other than that, it rocks. My wife and I use it fairly frequently when circumstances don't permit voice communication.

Posted by septimus on 02-27-2002 02:56 PM:

Re: Re: US SMS: Maturing & bearing Fruit

quote:
Originally posted by Toby
My only complaint about my SMS service is that I don't have email gateway services (it's mobile to mobile or internet to mobile only). Other than that, it rocks. My wife and I use it fairly frequently when circumstances don't permit voice communication.

Well, voicestream sends to email address just fine. There is an "SMS message center number" which routes all SMS messages for VoiceStream except for those routed by the "SMS email center number" which routes SMS messages heading out to email.

if you like, i can send you one.

---edit:if you don't like, ignore the one i just sent.

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Posted by Toby on 02-27-2002 03:05 PM:

Re: Re: Re: US SMS: Maturing & bearing Fruit

quote:
Originally posted by dietrichbohn
Well, voicestream sends to email address just fine.

Which does me absolutely _zero_ good where I'm sitting at the moment.

quote:
There is an "SMS message center number" which routes all SMS messages for VoiceStream except for those routed by the "SMS email center number" which routes SMS messages heading out to email.

I'm well aware of how the process works. The issue is that our provider doesn't currently offer the service. It's in the works, but just not implemented yet (mobile to mobile SMS is still in the testing phase - it's good to have connections with the local cellular carrier).

quote:
if you like, i can send you one.

Not necessary.

Posted by septimus on 02-27-2002 03:06 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: US SMS: Maturing & bearing Fruit

quote:
Originally posted by Toby
I'm well aware of how the process works. The issue is that our provider doesn't currently offer the service. It's in the works, but just not implemented yet (mobile to mobile SMS is still in the testing phase - it's good to have connections with the local cellular carrier).

Ah, sorry. Who's your service provider?

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Posted by Toby on 02-27-2002 03:23 PM:

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quote:
Originally posted by dietrichbohn
Ah, sorry. Who's your service provider?

DataOneSource is the SMS provider (my cellular provider is a branch of the company I work for).

Posted by pic_micro on 02-27-2002 03:40 PM:

I tried it and I can send sms msgs between voicestream to at&t without a problem.

This is really good. Thanks for the tip.

Posted by nwhitfield on 02-27-2002 07:26 PM:

It's about time the US networks pulled out their finger on SMS; I have a mate in New York on VoiceStream, and for ages I've only been able to reliably send him SMS when he's roaming on a foreign network.

This week, I've noticed, after reading that the US networks were getting their act together, that I can send him messages while he's at home.

It's a great tool - if I'm in a meeting, I can ask someone elsewhere to confirm something for me. I can tell people I'm running late for a meeting, or send a quick note to someone at night saying "Are you up" rather than calling them and waking them up. It's also great when you're at a busy event, like an outdoor festival or a show, where the local cell may be overwhelmed and a voice channel not available. Compose an SMS and it usually gets through first time; if not, just hit Send again until it does.

There are also 'reverse billed' SMS services now, where you can request information which arrives via SMS - perhaps the password for a protected web site - and the charge is added to your mobile bill.

Nigel.

Posted by marcus on 02-27-2002 07:38 PM:

I gave it a shot and was able to SMS my buddy in Sweden. It arrived to him within seconds. He was also able to SMS me back.

Sweet!

Too bad I can't SMS my friends US Cellular phone a block from here.

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Posted by g_scream on 02-27-2002 07:40 PM:

SMS is great here over in the UK. There are many situations where it is just not convenient to talk to someone and an SMS message is perfect. It's like an instant messenger ie ICQ except they are always on. There are times when i would much rather send an SMS than call the person.

In my opinion SMS is great!

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Posted by nwhitfield on 02-27-2002 07:57 PM:

Volume...

Found it..!

Orange, the UK's most popular network (there are 3 other operators, plus 2 virtual ones) reported on the number of SMSs sent at New Year.

The figure doubled over the previous year. Between midnight on New Year's Eve and 3am the following morning, Orange users sent 28 million text messages.

It's estimated that across all the UK networks, the figure was something like 90 million, which is around 1.5 for every person in the country.

Who said it would never catch on...?

Nigel.

Posted by heberman on 02-28-2002 10:14 PM:

I use Voicestream, and just tried sending an SMS to AT&T. It worked. Like dietrichbohn, my mom uses Verizon and I tested it there. I'm still waiting for her response. I hope it works.

SMS WILL catch on if the there is compatibility between the different providers. Every (almost) good new phone for sale seems to tout its 2-way messaging capability. That wasn't the case a couple of years ago.

Also, with everyone using SMS, my Treo is much more useful because of the easy text entry.

Posted by yardie on 03-01-2002 03:34 PM:

In Canada

....Meanwhile we are still waiting for interoperability in the great white north ..sigh

Posted by MbassadorK on 03-01-2002 04:41 PM:

is anyone aware of a website somewhere that explains SMS (not really technically, but a how-to/tutorial kind of thing?)

I guess, not having used it - though my Digital Link has the capablity, I don't really get what it is/does or what the advantage over email is...

if you don't know of a tutorial kind of site, maybe someone would SMS me and walk me through how it works and then I might get a better idea.

Thanks!

Posted by septimus on 03-01-2002 04:55 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by MbassadorK
if you don't know of a tutorial kind of site, maybe someone would SMS me and walk me through how it works and then I might get a better idea.

Well, i can't think of a site offhand..

here's a very quick and dirty (and possibly inaccurate, but what the hell) summary:

SMS (Short Message Service) is basically an outgrowth of the old school paging networks. When they started getting beefy, they realized that they could send more than just numbers across to pages. So folk started to be able to send short messages to each other.

When the Phone networks started taking over, they added this functionality to take customers. It essentially allows you to quickly send a short text message (less that 133 characters, IIRC) to a phone via a web form, email address, or another phone. It's very fast, like instant messaging, but less interactive, like email. You don't have to be "online" in order to use it because it works over the phone company's networks, so you don't use your "minutes" doing it.

I find them convenient because I'm often unable to talk on the phone yet would still like to be able to receive (and even send) information (i.e in class). I also prefer it over email for quick messages because they go to the person, usu.

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Posted by whiteytech on 03-03-2002 11:49 AM:

Real coooool

I've used the SMS for the last 5 years.Glad to see that now I can cross carrier lines at last.

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Posted by mpj1317 on 03-27-2002 05:39 PM:

SMS to e-mail

I am using a VisorPhone with Voicestream as my provider and my SMS e-mail center number is blank. Does anyone have a valid SMS e-mail center number I could try?

-Mike

Posted by pic_micro on 03-27-2002 06:14 PM:

Re: SMS to e-mail

quote:
Originally posted by mpj1317
I am using a VisorPhone with Voicestream as my provider and my SMS e-mail center number is blank. Does anyone have a valid SMS e-mail center number I could try?

-Mike

You can try with 500 and it that does not work try 5000.

By the way you need to type the message as follow

[email protected] # msg_text

Posted by septimus on 03-27-2002 06:29 PM:

Re: Re: SMS to e-mail

quote:
Originally posted by pic_micro

You can try with 500 and it that does not work try 5000.

By the way you need to type the message as follow

[email protected] # msg_text

Actually, if you just enter 500 in the preferences field, then you can just write an email address in the "to" field and the treo will figure it out.

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Posted by brianblank on 04-08-2002 09:51 PM:

Other chat services?

I have a Deluxe and a VP with VoiceStream. When I try to write an email address in the To: field my visor just beeps at me and does not wrote the character.

Any help would be great!

Thanks,
Brian

Problem Solved
Appearently VS phone support gave me the incorrect E-mail center number, once corrected by VS email support to 500 everything is working great!

Another question, is there support for MSM or Yahoo messanger using SMS instead of cell minutes?

Thanks,
Brian

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